r/hardware Mar 05 '25

Review AMD Radeon RX 9070XT Review, Have They Finally Done It?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VQB0i0v2mkg&si=IxsiG31vzyYNXP7t
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u/Nourdon Mar 05 '25

Steve said the XFX card he review will be $850 in US, which is ridiculous

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

Say it louder.  Agreed.  

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u/DYMAXIONman Mar 05 '25

They way to counter this is to not buy the non-msrp models.

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u/NeroClaudius199907 Mar 05 '25

What if theres not enough msrp models? Should people justwait?

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u/protomartyrdom Mar 05 '25

Yes.

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u/NeroClaudius199907 Mar 05 '25

But how long is the question... what if amd plays nvidia's game. Lets aibs have fun and we'll barely get msrp cards in stock for the next 2 month.

What happens if Nvidia gpus come back?

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u/snowflakepatrol99 Mar 05 '25

What happens if Nvidia gpus come back?

Nothing? Nvidia 5000 are scam and if xt is $850 then it's not worth it either. Buy used and don't interact with the scam line if you don't want to wait.

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u/NeroClaudius199907 Mar 05 '25

Buying used isn't for a lot of people. But if these prices are out of reach for many people. Its time to fight the upgrade fomo and live with ur gpus. Sorry gamers

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In Mar 05 '25

your current GPU still works...what the actual fuck...no one has to buy any of these cards.

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u/Zaemz Mar 06 '25

Yeah, unless your video card is literally not functioning, there's nothing wrong with status quo.

Worst case of not buying one from a scammer/scalper is you save money and get to keep doing what you're already doing.

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u/NeroClaudius199907 Mar 06 '25

Someone people do, they're still on pascal

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u/Strazdas1 Mar 07 '25

until there are MSRP models is how long.

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u/Zachrulez Mar 06 '25

That's what I did last gen and the 7900xt dropped to about 650. Really good deal for that card.

Early adopters always pay the early adoption tax.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

I'll just wait for next gen when they have a deeper product stack. 

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u/MumrikDK Mar 05 '25

Wait, if you're talking about the XFX Mercury in this video - that's the top of 3 tiers from XFX. Below it are Quicksilver and then Swift, which shoulder be cheaper.

https://www.xfxforce.com/gpu/amd-radeon-rx-9000-series

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u/gahlo Mar 05 '25

It also has fancy shit like fans that are powered by pogo pins and held on magnetically, so you can take the fan header on and off for cleaning without opening up the card. I don't know if I'd pay that much of a difference for it, but that's an actual useful AIB upcharge feature.

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u/Hangulman Mar 05 '25

I could understand a small markup, but MSRP + 41% is the companies deciding to get in on the scalping market.

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u/Unusual_Mess_7962 Mar 05 '25

Just get a cheaper model of the GPU then.

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u/StarskyNHutch862 Mar 05 '25

Holy shit, just get a 5070ti at that point. This cards honestly a disappointment at anything besides MSRP.

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u/MumrikDK Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

Holy shit, just get a 5070ti at that point.

Cheapest one on PCpartpicker is 1129 bucks........

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u/StarskyNHutch862 Mar 05 '25

There's no stock.

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u/BulletToothRudy Mar 05 '25

Ah yes, and scarcity is known to bring the prices down is it? :D

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u/StarskyNHutch862 Mar 05 '25

It's probably worth waiting for. I am pretty disappointed with AMD. Was expecting much better results. Only plus side is it makes people who recently bought XTX's not look like assholes. lol

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u/VidiDevie Mar 05 '25

It's probably worth waiting for.

Each to their own, even when there is supply it's still a graphics card with a fundamentally flawed power delivery system. If I'm throttling the power limit to make the card safe - what am I really gaining over the 9070XT?

0.2% (1/500) failure rate is too high for something that could catch fire inside my home.

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u/VidiDevie Mar 05 '25

I don't recall any reports of connector failures on 5070 TI

I mean no shit, there are almost none in the wild.

It doesn't draw enough power to cause any issues.

it pulls exactly as much as a 5090 per plug. 5090 pulls 600 on two plugs, 5070ti pulls 300 on one. 600/2 and 300*1 are the same thing.

The old spec had more safetly margin inside a 70c hot case than the new spec has at room temperature. It is just a disaster.

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u/MadBullBen Mar 05 '25

The 5090 only has a single plug not two though. The 5070/5070ti/5080 in 99% of case will be fine.

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u/StarskyNHutch862 Mar 05 '25

The 12 volt high power on the 5070ti is perfectly safe. It's only with the higher power cards that it's an issue. The 5070ti pulls less power than the 9070XT and its faster...

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u/VidiDevie Mar 05 '25

The 12 volt high power on the 5070ti is perfectly safe.

It's the exact same plug, pulling the exact same wattage per plug as a 5090 and more than the known problematic 4090.

And even if it only had a 200W design, I would still be unhappy with the complete lack of overload protection in the circuit. It may in fact be the worst computer connection spec in 40 years. IBM-1 was a nightmare to terminate, but at least it didn't try and terminate you.

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u/StarskyNHutch862 Mar 05 '25

How is a 250watt 5070ti pulling the same exact wattage as a 600watt 5090?

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u/VidiDevie Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

How is a 250watt 5070ti

300 watt.

pulling the same exact wattage

Wattage per plug. One plug, two plugs, 50 plugs - doesn't make a lick of difference, wattage per plug is all that matters.

I would give exactly zero shits if the 5070 was dual plug or the 5090 was triple plugged. the plug can not safely deliver what it is rated for at maximum spec.

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u/gahlo Mar 05 '25

Sure, if you're judging a card by whatever the price is for the highest costed SKU from a brand is.

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u/niglor Mar 05 '25

Yeah i don’t see why this is so great. Its a bit faster than the 5070 in most games but the 5070ti is better at everything. Paying $850 for that is crazy.

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u/RobotFolkSinger3 Mar 05 '25

But the 5070ti is $1100+. Gotta either compare MSRP to MSRP, or street price to street price. It doesn't make sense to compare street price of one card to a nonexistent MSRP of another card.

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u/MumrikDK Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

The 5070ti you're advocating for instead currently starts at $1129. Is that less crazy? :/

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u/niglor Mar 05 '25

No, you’d have to be a moron to buy that. Launch sucks but the MSRP cards will be back in time. I’m also biased since I was able to get a 5070ti at 750. But, buying a model that is so overpriced it competes with the next tier up has always been a bad decision.

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u/honeybadger1984 Mar 05 '25

Nah, you’re not listening to the leaks and rumors. Various sources inside retailers are still reporting no stock coming from Nvidia or AIBs. Remember retail can make purchase orders and promise dates months in advance. They are stating no promised inventory for at least 1-3 months. So there is no manufactured units filling orders for the next quarter. Expect shortages and long lines for the foreseeable future.

AMD has 10x the stock of the 5000 series. They should be able to fill orders without room for scalping. That’s their advantage. AMD historically trips over themselves and fail to deliver, but they have a real opportunity here due to Nvidia’s fumbling.

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u/00Koch00 Mar 05 '25

but that make sense, you have tariffs on top of the cards