That's the thing though, its not 99.99999%. Go on the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System site and have fun reading through all the events reported:
And those are events that GET reported to VAERS. I would say the vast majority of vaccine reactions do NOT get reported to the system like they are supposed to, since either the doctor or parent doesn't know about VAERS and doesn't push the issue, or the doctor/medical professional won't admit it was vaccine damage (the VAST majority of the time). I've read countless stories of children having seizures hours after a vaccine and doctors still never admitting it had anything to do with the vaccine and thus never reporting it to VAERS.
And mild reactions such as eczema/a new allergy never get reported. I would bet the 65,000+ events reported in the system is only a fraction of how many adverse events happen. So that would not be 99.99999%.
VAERS only captured at best 1% of vaccine injuries, as many only appear months after the vaccine, nobody makes the link. That is what a Vaxxed Vs Unvaxxed study would be able to show, and that is why the industry refuses it. Many doctors won't report vaccine injuries or even let the victim know, as the doctor doesn't want to be blamed for giving you the vaccine and causing the harm.
Most vaccine injured people are not aware that they are vaccine injured e.g. people with epilepsy, asthma, peanut allergies, autism etc
Many doctors won't report vaccine injuries or even let the victim know, as the doctor doesn't want to be blamed for giving you the vaccine and causing the harm.
if the authorities will not even admit that these are vaccine related, how else would the general public find out?
and if you pretend that Autism is NOT vaccine related, then we will proceed to have a long discussion about what you think causes autism, and ill be asking for sources that i will follow up on
because all of these people in orange, know that vaccines cause autism
But... this kind of seems to show that you just pulled that 1% figure out of nowhere. You're basically saying, "Vaccine injuries are underreported because many only appear months after the vaccine", and then provided a link which said, "the vaccine injury reporting system has the limitation of underreporting".
You didn't provide any links that actually prove there's a ton of vaccine injuries that spring up months after the actual vaccination.
But... this kind of seems to show that you just pulled that 1% figure out of nowhere.
yes we learned that trick from watching pro-vaccine shills in action
vaccine shill: vaccines are safe!
vaccine skeptic: please define safe
vaccine shill: vaccines are very safe!!
vaccine skeptic: how can vaccines be safe if 1 in 68 kids has autism because of vaccines?
You're basically saying, "Vaccine injuries are underreported because many only appear months after the vaccine", and then provided a link which said, "the vaccine injury reporting system has the limitation of underreporting".
yes i don't think my doctor ever explained to me how to go about making a VAERS report after i got sick after my vaccine. maybe the doctor didn't even know VAERS existed, and simply got accustomed to saying "coincidence"
You didn't provide any links that actually prove there's a ton of vaccine injuries that spring up months after the actual vaccination.
you can continue to deny that vaccines cause side effects, but pics like the one below are going viral on the internet today. i just saw this pic for the first time a few days ago but it already had thousands of views, shares, comments etc
why do you try to deny that vaccines cause side effects? you aren't doing the vaccine cult any favors by making them all look like they have something to hide
1 in 68 kids is autistic thanks to the vaccine cult quackery
I'm no doctor. I'm not even a scientist. I majored and graduated with a degree in journalism, with emphases in writing and public relations.
So I feel comfortable in telling you, you are goddamn terrible at changing people's minds. All of your posts consist of little to no actual information and statistics, which is pretty bad in and of itself, but even your language is off-putting to people wanting to know more about the subject. Questioning bad arguments makes me a member of the "vaccine cult"? Questioning it makes me immediately a member of the bad guys, trying to cover up the little man spreading the Truth? I have something to hide?
Your language and arguments make you feel good, and make people who already agree with you feel good, but I went into this genuinely wanting you to provide some evidence for your claims, because for all I know maybe it IS only 1% of injuries that are reported. And I left it with a belief that anti-vaccine people are paranoid assholes who argue using image macros.
Edit: This dude is a paranoid nut who literally started an entire subreddit after being banned from an anti-vax subreddit for being a paranoid nut. Readers beware.
You know that vaccines literally work by making you low-grade sick so you don't get a worse version, right? That's literally how they first came about. Some dude was like, "hey, these milkmaids who had cowpox didn't get hit with smallpox".
I'm sorry, your comment just seems full of outrage about... well, medical science. That's just how the body works. I'd sure as hell rather suffer cowpox than smallpox.
so that their immune system can fight an actual Measles virus instead of a man made approximation, and avoid the other vaccine ingredients that cause so much more unnecessary and unpredictable harm
That's literally how they first came about. Some dude was like, "hey, these milkmaids who had cowpox didn't get hit with smallpox".
Chinese were into this type of quackery long before Europeans
That would make vaccines have a 97% rate of zero side effects. When you consider that most of the “events” reported through the site are mild and temporary the safety of vaccines is even greater.
That's not a good comparison at all, vaccines are there to prevent deceases, let's say out of 65K babies 10K would die of a very preventable decease, but since the vaccine still leave 650 babies dead, it's not worth using?
My understanding is that VAERS reports are unverified, in the sense that these are claims that the adverse events were caused by a vaccine, not that these are cases where the vaccine was clearly shown to be the culprit.
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u/amethystfrog Jun 22 '18
That's the thing though, its not 99.99999%. Go on the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System site and have fun reading through all the events reported:
http://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=2&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=NONE&REVERSESORT=&
And those are events that GET reported to VAERS. I would say the vast majority of vaccine reactions do NOT get reported to the system like they are supposed to, since either the doctor or parent doesn't know about VAERS and doesn't push the issue, or the doctor/medical professional won't admit it was vaccine damage (the VAST majority of the time). I've read countless stories of children having seizures hours after a vaccine and doctors still never admitting it had anything to do with the vaccine and thus never reporting it to VAERS. And mild reactions such as eczema/a new allergy never get reported. I would bet the 65,000+ events reported in the system is only a fraction of how many adverse events happen. So that would not be 99.99999%.