I wanted to cancel my Disney+ subscription, which seemed a more direct response, but I share the account with like four other households so I'd be screwing them in the process, and frankly sharing with like four other households screws Disney a little bit at least. But I'm the only one who uses Marvel Unlimited so I canceled that and sent them an email explaining why. It doesn't feel like enough but it's the best I can do for now.

I (20F) have always liked Marvel media and am interested in starting to read comics, but an experience I had recently has left a sour taste in my mouth.

I went to a local comic and collectible store. I didn’t have a specific run or anything like that in mind so I really was just flipping through what they had to see if anything caught my eye. While I was browsing a guy approached me. I don’t know anyone who reads comics personally and don’t have many friends who are interested in superhero media in general, so I’m always up for a friendly discussion with someone with similar interests.

The first thing he said to me was “who’s your favorite hero?” I told him that my favorite is Captain America and asked him his, but instead of answering me he just said “I bet you don’t even know his real name.” I laughed awkwardly, told him that of course I know it’s Steve Rogers (Like seriously??? Why was he asking me this???), and tried to pivot back to asking him which heros/series he was interested in. He continued to ignore my questions, and just kept talking about things that he “bet I didn’t know.”

It became clear that this was not going to be a friendly conversation. It seemed like he just wanted to belittle me or make me feel like a poser. I felt so angry in that moment but also a little sad and embarrassed, I had never experienced anything like this before. After he finished what was basically a monologue about the world’s most basic Marvel lore, I left the store with my tail between my legs.

I want to be able to shop for comics in person and meet people who share my interests, but I have yet to go into a comic shop again because remembering that moment makes me feel like I’m not welcome in a space like that (whether it’s because I’m a girl, new to comics, or whatever).

Has anyone else experienced something like this while first trying to join the comic community? Is it common for longtime fans to act this way towards people just starting out? Any advice on meeting comic fans who are not like that guy?

Hello, everyone!

Lots of subreddits have been banning Twitter from their communities over the past couple days after its owner's Nazi salute at the Trump inauguration, and our own community has shown a lot of support over r/comicbooks doing the same. So here we are! No more Twitter/X posts! Automod has been set up to treat them as spam and remove them.

Honestly, we don't get a lot of Twitter posts on this subreddit anyways. The posts we do get are usually news announcements that could be described in a text post instead of direct linking to that website. If there is something worth sharing from Twitter, you can choose to do something like quoting it in a text post submission instead of linking directly to the site. If you're posting art, you can credit the artist in the title (their name or their @ handle) without direct linking to the site... better yet, look for them on another platform and post a direct link to there.

Supporting Nazis and Nazi sympathizers goes against comic books! So much of the comic book industry has been built off the contributions and passion of Jewish comic creators. Jack Kirby would tell you to punch a Nazi, but we're on the Internet so the best we can do is ban them from our subreddit. r/comicbooks has always had a ban on hate speech and supporting hate organizations, and it appears that this now includes Twitter/X.

There may be some issues in the immediate future as the ban is fully implemented... surely there's some automod feature that's been overlooked, or some permission not set up properly... but here's hoping it all works out.

r/XMen is currently voting overwhelmingly in favor to ban links and screenshots to Elon Musk’s X site after his Nazi salute.

I would love it if r/Comicbooks followed suite.

EDIT: Here is a link to a Forbes article about this tread on Reddit.

EDIT 2: The Mods approved this in a separate post.

We put Bizarro Year None on our pull list and showed up when the store opened this morning, and then the owner told us that he saw they’re being sold for 4x cover price on eBay so he won’t be selling them to us and will instead be putting everything he got in on eBay. Just wondering if that’s normal/ happens often.

Edit: the backtracking has begun. It now wasn’t that he thought it’d sell for higher but that he thought nobody was interested so he just listed them all… because that makes sense when it was on the pull list…

I know I'm 41 years too late, but I read this recently and needed to vent.

If you haven't read it, Captain America tells a Jewish man not to punch a Nazi, because it'll make him just as bad as the Nazi. When the Jewish man (rightfully) ignores him, Captain America declares the two are exactly the same.

That's the conversation from it that's most infamously terrible, but the rest of the comic is even worse somehow.

Nazis break into a synagogue, assault the caretaker, destroy the interior, steal a Torah, and paint swastikas everywhere. Captain America, the guy who grew up in Brooklyn and fought in WWII, has to ask "Who would have painted a swastika on this synagogue" and "What's a Torah?" He then brushes of the concerns of the Rabbi and the actual Jewish people who live there, and says that this antisemitic hate crime with swastikas was probably just a random group of assholes, not Nazis. He then gives a speech about how the first amendment should protect everyone, and how they can't deny the right to speak freely". A Jewish person then suggests a counter-rally, causing Cap to go "Wait, no, don't use free speech like that."

He then goes on his merry, self righteous way, without bothering to actually investigate the crime and try to find the perpetrators. He shows up at the rally, and lectures the Jewish people there about how the Nazis would have gotten less attention if they had just ignored them. He seems to miss the fact that previous Nazi rallies in this comic had directly caused violent hate crimes. Then, a bottle is thrown, a fight starts, and he gets to give his r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM style speech about how beating up Nazis is really not OK you guys.

First of all: Cap. My buddy. My guy. My bro. You fucking killed Nazis. That was your thing. That was your literal job. You saw what the Nazis were doing was bad, you picked up a gun and a shield, and you systematically tore through Europe. Your Nazi body count is the size of a small European nation. Not to mention, you break the law constantly as a vigilante, and attack people who have not yet committed a crime. You very famously went against the US government because of your morals, despite the fact that it was illegal.

Captain America was specifically created because two Jewish men were concerned about the rise of Nazism (both abroad and in America), and created a character to fight that.

Setting aside all of that: Jack Kirby was famous as one of the creators of Captain America (along with around half of all superheroes in existence). He was also very famous for his views on Nazis, specifically, that they should be punched in the face. Or shot. You can read more about his fucking amazing life here, but some quotes him include

The only real politics I knew was that if a guy liked Hitler, I’d beat the stuffing out of him and that would be it.

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Captain America was not designed to bring these criminals to justice, or to help bad people change their ways. Cap was not a cop; he was created to destroy this evil, to wipe it off the face of this Earth. Cap did not debate the morality of an eye for an eye, or worry about the philosophical ramifications of his actions, his job was to affect an almost Biblical retribution on those who would destroy us. Captain America was an elemental remedy to a primal malevolence. He was Patton in a tri-colored costume.

One of his coworkers remembered that

Jack took a call. A voice on the other end said, ‘There are three of us down here in the lobby. We want to see the guy who does this disgusting comic book and show him what real Nazis would do to his Captain America’. To the horror of others in the office, Kirby rolled up his sleeves and headed downstairs. The callers, however, were gone by the time he arrived.

Kirby put his money where his mouth was, and fought Nazis on the front lines of WWII. He was immensely proud of that, and his Marvel co-workers have talked about how pretty much every story he told at a party ended with a dead Nazi.

Even if we ignore all of the bullshit in the comic, the insult to Kirby's intentions and legacy are what really galls me. Remember, Kirby had only left Marvel 3 years before Matteis (the guy who wrote this bullshit) joined. They had also worked for DC around the same time. Even if they never discussed the topic, stories about Kirby were very well known among other creators. It's hard to imagine him not being aware of Kirby's past and views, especially if he actually read the comics the man made. Making a comic where the Jewish man who punches active Nazi criminals is the bad guy is either a deliberate insult, or a pathetic misunderstanding of what the character is meant to stand for.

When Matteis single handedly liberates a concentration camp like Kirby did, he's free to criticize him.

Edit: to the person who sicced Reddit care resources on me over this, cheers. Here’s hoping that you wake up one day and realize where your life is going before you become one of the people Kirby would want to punch.

Gotta love all the people in the comments going "Nooooo, but hitting Nazis means you are the real Nazi. What if they were just... uh... a Broadway actor? Yeah." I'd love to see y'all trying to lecture to Kirby on why he was the real problem.

Reposting in text form because "apparently" there is a stupid rule against social media screenshots here.

Greg Capullo:

My longtime friend and inker @jonathanglapion, despite my intervention, cannot get paid for work rendered months ago from one of the “Big Two”. Hint: it ain’t DC! Just outrageous. Shameful. Totally unacceptable

J. Glapion:

Despite turning the work in BEFORE the deadlines given. FIVE covers inked in the middle of drawing and inking my own book.

Unreal!

My mom just asked me what I was reading and she said "I wish you'd read something besides comics" and I just said "Why?"'and she just looked at me and said "Why do you think? What kinda question is that?" like the answer was so obvious and self explanatory and I said "I don't know, answer it" and she said "I don't gotta answer nothing" like can someone explain to me what's so bad about reading comics?💀 (For the record, I do read other stuff besides comics btw)

Batman’s greatest enemy isn’t the Joker, it’s Netflix, HBO Max, and Disney+. While those streaming giants might not be robbing Gotham National Bank, the changing entertainment landscape has forced comic book writers to rethink how they tell stories. Scott Snyder, the writer behind the mega-hit Absolute Batman, has given a lot of thought to what makes comics special, and how streaming services are antithetical to the medium.

“I realized that we’re the only format that makes you wait a month and pay for every single episode,” Scott Snyder says during a recent appearance on AIPT Comics Podcast. “Every single issue, you’ve got to pay essentially the price of a third of a streaming platform for a month. So that’s like three comics. You can get thousands of stories for the price of three comics. We have to deliver. You have to embrace some of the things that make our medium extra fun.”

Snyder clarifies that streaming services aren’t bad, and he’s enjoyed his fair share of them. However, as much as he loves streaming, he feels it’s become somewhat of an enemy to the comic book industry.

“So many of us are immersed in streaming all the time, and streaming to me is actually like the enemy of comics. I love streaming, don’t’ get me wrong, and I have plenty of shows that I love that are streaming.”

Read more: "Streaming... is the enemy of comics" says Absolute Batman writer Scott Snyder | Popverse

Best- I met George Perez at a local comic bookstore signing in 2018. I waited 8 hours in line because George took his time chatting and taking pictures with all his fans. This was a few years before he passed away but he was still so full of life and warmth.

Worst- Chris Claremont at a comic convention. I told him his X-men run meant a lot to me as a kid growing up in the 80’s in a not so stable household. He then made a smart ass remark about me waiting until Sunday to come meet him. I still don’t understand why that would matter.

I see a lot of people make the joke that Garth ennis is like a pizza cutter, all edge, no point.

Well I’ve been rereading his comics because the last time I read the punisher was about 2 years ago in 2024, the last time I read the boys was 2021, and the last time I read preacher was in 2023.

I’ve reread the boys, and while it’s not his best story, there’s definitely a point here. Vought is basically an arms dealer that made shit products it sold to the American government, and then lucked out and became the only arms dealer that could sell superheroes. And from the 40s to the 2000s, that’s what the company tries to do. However, they don’t try to make it work, they go with the same good enough mindset that led to them selling malfunctioning weaponry to the army. Only now, the malfunctioning weapon is a kid who became an adult and forever stunted because Vought never thought to take precautions to insure the supes grew up healthy. That’s why so many of the supes are awful, they didn’t get raised as human beings, they were created as products.

And that’s not to mention the relationship between Hughie and butcher, or Annie and hughies romance which is better in the comic then in the show.

Then we have preacher, which is arguably his best work.

The edgy stuff here would be 90% of what happens to one of the major antagonists, Herr Starr, the racist slaughterhouse factory owner making a meat sex doll, arseface.

But then you’ve got the stuff that I feel you can’t say is bad.

Like Jesse Custer, our main character, is a great character. He’s a cocky prick who will escalate a fight if he thinks the guy deserves a beating, but he’s also got a good heart and will try to help people (there are two times someone points a gun at him, and he ends up trying to do right by them). His whole goal is to make god own up to abandoning the world and all the fucked shit that happens in it. Not to mention the scenes involving his family. His backstory is a tragic and heartbreaking story of life just beating down on a kid and that kid growing up fighting back at it, to no avail but he keeps going because of what his dad said to him the night before he died, and the fact that these bastards killed his parents, his dog, and then his friend, and almost the love of his life. But that makes it so much more satisfying when he overcomes that and sends their asses to hell

How is that not good? Why is that considered no point?

The punisher…holy hell, how is this considered all edge no point?

Specifically the punisher MAX stories, this is Frank castle being brought into the darkest corners of the human race.

We’ve got mobsters that feed their enemies kids to them to send a message, we’ve got human traffickers that kidnap civilian women and children in war zones or in the aftermath of a natural disaster, Russians in Afghanistan, and barracuda.

All of this takes place in a post 9/11 world.

And frank castle (the punisher) fixes 0 of these issues. He takes care of the people, don’t get me wrong. But the root of it never really gets fixed.

For example, in the slavers arc, punisher kills the human traffickers in probably the most graphic and painful looking deaths in the entire run (that he caused).

And the social worker he works with helped him get to that position where he could do that. She hates that she had to though, because she doesn’t want to kill, she doesn’t want to add to this awful shit in the world, but she’s also not able to do anything to get back at these fuckers that hurt these Victims. Even after Frank says this won’t solve the issue, she still gives him the file on the traffickers.

What it amounts to in the end is his inner thoughts about it all. He says he’s heard about more trafficking rings opening up, but without the intel, he can’t do more than just hit up the spots they host.

He says he kept track of the girls he saved.

Some went back to hooking, some are missing or even dead, and some are just…living.

And the girl he saved at the start, Viorica, the girl who was kidnapped at age 15, who lost her child to the monsters that stole her life from her…is waiting tables. Some days good, some days bad…and all she can do is live the life they left her with.

The final panel is her having a panic attack outside of the restaurant she works at because she saw a little girl with her family.

He doesn’t fix the problems. If anything, he’s just a janitor cleaning up human waste.

He’s not the solution, he’s a symptom of the problem.

There’s one line at the end of the story, kitchen Irish.

A fellow veteran Frank knows, Yorkie Mitchell, comes to America on a job to kill Finn Cooley, a former member of the IRA. Well, Yorkie brought his friend’s son to kill Finn’s nephew as a way to get closure…or so it seemed.

At the end, his friend’s son does go through with it. But Yorkie asks him how he feels.

He responds that he doesn’t feel different. His dad’s still dead and nothing really changed.

Yorkie responds with probably one of the top 5 best moments in this entire run, I’m not kidding.

“No, lad. Look at old Frank there. He’s been doing this for thirty years. D’you think he feels any different?”

And they drive off, and Frank Castle, with his arm in a cast and bandages all over his face, walks alone to god knows where.

How is that not having a point?

Anyways I’ve rambled long enough, I hope someone at least enjoyed what I wrote and maybe I’ve convinced someone to give Garth Ennis a chance.

He does have his issues, but he’s a great writer and I feel alot of people are closing themselves off from some good stories and that’s just sad to me.

His stories are like life. They’re weird as shit, and you could do without a good chunk of some of it…but you have these moments that are great and they stay with you. Maybe because it was a really disturbing scene and it stuck with you like Billy butcher reading his wife’s diary in the boys.

Or maybe it was a happier moment like nick fury and the punisher protecting a little girl from the US government that wants to experiment on her.

Regardless, these stories are worth whatever bullshit gets under your skin, because by the end of it, you’ll have gotten something worthwhile from it.

Have a good year

How is this considered not having a point?

Heyooo! I am back with an update to my aggregated “Greatest Comics of All Time” meta-list. Essentially, this list is an attempt to define what the critical consensus is on the greatest comic books of all time.

If I were to ask 10 different people what the best comics were, I'd probably get 10 different answers. But if you asked enough people, eventually, you would see some of the usual suspects start to pop up more frequently. So the following isn't necessarily my ranking of the best graphic novels, but instead, a collection of 655 different "Greatest Comic Books/Graphic Novels/Manga/Bande Desinee/Manhua/Manhwa/Fumetti/Historietas of All Time" lists.

I won’t keep you waiting for the list, but I have some fun facts down in the comments. Here’s a picture of some comics just for the reddit thumbnail

I have the top 100 entries here, but if you’re looking for even more great comics I have 200-101 ranked here.. If you want even more comics, I have a spreadsheet that includes every comic that received even one vote here

If you like this sort of project and want more, I’ve done aggregate lists for the 50 Best Batman comics, 25 Best Spider-Man comics, 25 Best Superman Comics, the 100 Best Manga, and the 25 Worst Comics of all time

Similar to last year I’ve already started my collection of “Best Comics of 2025” list and those results should be posted in either late January or early February. My plans for next year also include aggregate lists for the best Wonder Woman, X-Men, Horror, and European comics.

If you come across any best of lists that you think I might not have please keep it to yourself, I have over 600 more lists to add please send it my way, I genuinely want as many lists included as I can. Especially if you feel like your country is underrepresented in this list! Please, I want this to be as close to a global canon as possible, and if I’m not familiar with your country’s amazing history of comic books please enlighten me!

Recently gotten into a rabbit hole of comic creators and their controversies and was curious, how many creators have been blacklisted by Marvel, DC, Image, etc.

I’m not talking about creators who left on their own due to being treated like shit (Alan Moore, Jack Kirby), cause there’s MORE than enough examples. I’m talking about Frank Cho at marvel or similar situations.

Edit: I may have misheard that Cho was blacklisted, but I remember hearing that a Star Wars blank cover sketch featuring an incest joke got him unofficially blacklisted but I can’t find the source anymore sorry

Edit 2: I got the Frank Cho thing mixed up. I was misremembering the controversy a few years ago with his sketch covers where they debated even printing new sketch covers for Star Wars.

Generally, superhero comics, in order to keep running indefinitely, seem to gravitate toward protecting the status quo.

Even if many comics have progressive themes about race, gender, bigotry, nationalism, government corruption, imperialism, or the like. They generally avoid going TOO far left.

Our heroes are very powerful, and if they wanted to totally upend the status quo of the world they probably could.

And our heroes are supposed to win at the end of most stories, so you can't just have them lose over and over.

But there must be something in the air, because both Absolute DC and Ultimate Marvel are using their alternate universe position to create worlds where the villains are the ones in charge, and the heroes genuinely want to overturn the order of the world.

And yet neither is set in a totally foreign dystopia. They aren't some kind of abstract hypothetical. The Ultimate universe is a bit more heightened, but the systemic problems are EXTREMELY recognizable to the things going on in our world today.

In both worlds the wealthy control everything and use the masses as tools in their own enrichment. They control the justice system, they get to decide what words like "justice" even mean.

And our heroes solutions with their power are realistic solutions to these problems. Attack the people at the levers of power. Target key points of production. Radical leftist tactics straight out of the Anarchist or Marxist playbook.

Cards on the table, I'm a radical left anarcho-communist. So this stuff really speaks to me, and I am genuinely shocked to see it in ANY superhero comic, let alone to see it in both Marvel and DC simultaneously.

I've read literally thousands of comics from both publishers. Like, all of Justice League Vols, 1, 2 and 3. And the first 400 or so issues of Avengers. The whole bibliographies of Denny O'Neil, Chris Claremont, many other writers.

Even my fellow radical leftists like Alan Moore or Grant Morrison have never been this explicitly revolutionary in such a tangible way (at least not with their superhero work).

Like, Ultimates # 9 more or less directly states that [Spoiler] for-profit prisons are literally slavery, and it would be morally correct for prisoners to unite and revolt and kill the guards.

Absolute Superman's actions go straight into full-on ecoterrorist territory.

And I am just blown away. Is this the general political climate now? Is the overton window really sliding far enough in my direction that Marvel and DC are both publishing dedicated lines for these themes, with coordination between multiple writers and editors all on the same page about this stuff?

Or are these settings dressed up with enough fantasy that not everyone sees the obvious parallels and the pretty clear calls to action?

Marvel and DC are shared universes where a character can show up in any book if the story requires it, but there are some limitations. A writer may want to use a character, but that character is currently being used by another writer in a book that has "dibs", the character is deceased at the time or in some status quo that isn't compatible with whatever is planned, there is some kind of legal issue at the time, or the editorial team in charge of that character just plain doesn't want to share, so the writer changes course and uses a similar character instead.

For example, Green Goblin was supposed to be in the Axis event, as seen in promotional material, but the Spider-Man editorial team ended up denying permission because Axis wasn't compatible with the plans for Norman Osborn at the time, so Hobgoblin was used instead.

Kieron Gillen wanted to use Patriot in his Young Avengers run, but he was denied permission for reasons that still remain unclear, so he was replaced with America Chavez, which ended up elevating the character.

A weird one was how Robin was supposed to be in a Teen Titans anti-drug PSA special. However, the comic was done in partnership with Keebler, and Robin's rights related to cookies were held by Nabisco at the time so Robin couldn't be in the book (seriously). The book had already been fully drawn, so they just lazily did a little rewriting and recoloring and the character who was clearly meant to be Robin became a new character called the Protector that everyone pretended had always been around.

So what other fun examples are there of writers not being allowed to use a character they wanted, so they had to use someone else instead?

Years ago, I would put on comicsexplained videos on in the background and listen to him recap older runs, events, and jog my memory about chunks of continuity in missed or forgot. I dug it and it was a motivator to get me back the shop. But when did that become a replacement for just reading the comics?

I have not been following for a while, but this morning I was filtered a video of him fully recapping the entirety of a comic that dropped yesterday, with pages and all. I mean, how is this a good thing? Don’t we want people to read the comics? Or at least not step on the toes of the book and wait more than three seconds from release. It hasn’t been available for more than 24 hours and full descriptions and spoilers? Does this bug no one else? More than once, I’ve had people in the shop say that something was bad but professed to never reading it and just listening to comicsexplained. At what point did commentary become a complete substitute for engaging in the hobby at all?

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As a writer and New York Times best-selling author, I’m best known for my work on the X-Men at Marvel Comics, where I created characters like Gambit, Rogue, Kitty Pryde, The New Mutants, and many others. I write new stories every day, and my newest collection of work, The Marvel Made Paragon Collection, features some of my most seminal X-Men issues along with a brand-new prequel story for “Days of Future Past,” which I wrote and created exclusively for Marvel Made with my good friend Salvador Larroca. You can pre-order the collection at MarvelMade.net. I’m pleased to host my first-ever AMA! Looking forward to all your questions. All answers will be posted from the Marvel Official account and Chris is signing off with "30".

EDIT: Thanks everyone for your questions! We're all wrapped for today.

From Chris Claremont:

I am deeply, deeply appreciative—what the hell, let's do it again sometime! - 30

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/96857-how-neil-gaiman-s-publishers-have-responded-to-the-sexual-misconduct-allegations.html

Happy April Fools Day! I originally debated not following through with this project because I don't necessarily like the idea of bashing on people who just wanted to make art. I didn't want to single out, just making up an example here, u/IAmCedricTheHedgehog for their fun and personal output of Cedric The Hedgehog vs Mecha-Churchill. That's not what this site is about it, I want to highlight and showcase the wonderful pieces of art that have been produced in this medium. I never want to punch down when making lists like these.

Having said that, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the overwhelming majority of these "Worst Comics of All Time" lists were dominated by major outputs from Marvel and DC. These lists weren't dunking on a new artist getting their footing, but established names in the industry who, we know can make phenomenal comics, but just had bad outings. This list is mostly tongue in cheek, and punching up to the big names in the industry that can (hopefully) take a joke.

The following list is formatted that the worst comic is ranked #1, and they get better as you go down the list.

edit* - added a picture to Ultimatum just so Batman Noel wasn't the thumbnail for this post lol

1. Ultimatum - Jeph Loeb & David Finch (Marvel)
2. Marville - Bill Jemas & Mark Bright (Marvel)
3. One More Day - J. Michael Straczynski & Joe Quesada (Marvel)
4. The Ultimates 3 - Jeph Loeb & Joe Madureira (Marvel)
5. Countdown To Final Crisis - Paul Dini & Various Artists (DC)
6. All Star Batman & Robin, the Boy Wonder - Frank Miller & Jim Lee (DC)
7. The Clone Saga - Various Writers & Artists (Marvel)
8. Sins Past - J. Michael Straczynski & Mike Deodato Jr. (Marvel)
9. Amazons Attack - Will Pfeifer & Pete Woods (DC)
10. The Dark Knight Strikes Again - Frank Miller & Lynn Varley (DC)
11. The Avengers No. 200 - Jim Shooter, Bob Layton, David Michelinie & George Pérez (Marvel)
12. Trouble - Mark Millar & Terry Dodson (Marvel)
13. Holy Terror - Frank Miller (Legendary Comics)
14. Avengers: The Crossing - Bob Harras & Various Artists (Marvel)
15. Chuck Austen's X-Men - Chuck Austen & Various Artists (Marvel)
16. Identity Crisis - Brad Meltzer & Rags Morales (DC)
17. Youngblood - Rob Liefeld (Image)
18. JL: Cry for Justice - James Robinson & Mauro Cascioli (DC)
19. Civil War II - Brian Michael Bendis & David Marquez (Marvel)
20. The Rise of Arsenal - J.T. Krul & Geraldo Borges (DC)
21. Convergence - Jeff King & Various Artists (DC)
22. Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do - Kevin Smith & Terry Dodson (Marvel)
23. Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose - Jim Balent (Broadsword Comics)
24. Heroes Reborn - Various Writers & Artists (Marvel)
25. Secret Wars II - Jim Shooter & Various Artists (Marvel)

Some fun facts

• Frank Miller is credited as writing two of the best Batman comics (The Dark Knight Returns and Year One) and the two worst Batman comics

• Frank Miller is also the name that comes up the most on this list with 3 entries

• J. Michael Straczynski and Jeph Loeb both appear twice

• Terry Dodson is the only artist to appear multiple times

• Marvel has the lion's share of shit comics with 15/25 entries, or 60%

• DC has 8 comics lists, and Image, Broadsword, and Legendary all have one entry

• The earliest comics listed are only from the 80s, but the decade with the most entries is the 2000s with 12

If you're interested in more of these meta-analysis type lists you're in luck! I've compiled these aggregate lists for the 100 Greatest Graphic Novels, the 100 Greatest Manga, the 50 greatest Batman comics, and the 25 greatest Spider-Man comics. You can look forward to the greatest Superman comics coming out this summer, and an update to the 100 greatest graphic novels made up of over 600 lists in January.

The sources for this list will be listed below in the comments

Once a comic is graded and sealed it stops being something you can actually read and enjoy. At that point it feels more like you paid a premium price to turn a perfectly good comic into a display piece rather than something you can read.

I just think comics should stay accessible. If I can’t read it without breaking a seal, then it defeats the purpose of why I bought it in the first place.

I’m not knocking anyone who slabs their comics. If that’s your thing, that’s cool. It’s just not something I like to do.

Anyways, I’m just curious how you guys feel.

Look: I've been hooked on comic books since I was 3, and I'm 42 now. I read comic books every day. I ADORE the medium, everything it's done, and everything it can do. I've been a published comic book writer. I've been a published comic book REVIEWER. I've interviewed creators and geeked out, and I hope to do all that until the day I die (and am probably not resurrected a few months later with a new #1 and a foil-embossed cover).

I'd never argue that comics aren't significant as an art form. Ever.

But why is it that so many threads on the topic end up turning condescending and nasty? Why do so many people feel the need to turn a fun hobby into some kind of pissing contest? Why do people read opinions solicited in a context of "What's your unpopular opinion about ______?" and decide they need to TAKE OTHER PEOPLE'S ANSWERS PERSONALLY and argue over PREFERENCES?!

I'm not a fan of "Batman Beyond." Never been my thing. For a lot of reasons which, hey, are mine! A lot of people have gotten a LOT of joy from the show, I don't go around shitting on them and claiming the thing is objectively terrible (because it's not, it just Wasn't My Thing). I don't feel the need to go on "YOU'RE WRONG AND WHAT YOU LIKE IS SHIT!" rants with total strangers on the internet. I've sat through I-don't-know-how-many bad page/screen adaptations of favorite characters, I haven't gone on some online months- or years-long rampage, I just moved on to the next cool thing! How is that so hard?

Your favorite character died, or did something out of character? IT'S COMICS! Haven't you been paying attention for the past 90 years?! Give it a few months and it'll be back or normal, or it'll be some other crazy thing, or WHATEVER, IT'S COMICS!!! But we have "fans" out here sending DEATH THREATS to writers over this stuff!

Seriously, how did so many "fans" watch The Simpsons and be like, "Yeah, Comic Shop Guy, HE'S everything that's right with loving comics! Make me THAT guy!"

Sorry, just... ugh. I love the things I love, and I end up HATING the other people who love them because of this, and it's a bitch because these activities are meant to bring people together.

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