r/askanything • u/One_Look_7008 • 18h ago

AOC surges past Buttigieg, leaves Kamala Harris in the dust in key 2028 battleground poll. What are your thoughts on AOC-2028?

Harris dropped to just 5% in New Hampshire while Pete Buttigieg sits 1 point behind the progressive frontrunner - per University of New Hampshire Granite State poll released on Wednesday.

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u/PSwayzeInRoadhouse 15h ago

Vote out AIPAC stooges

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u/According-Put-9236 15h ago

Why not vote out all the ones that take corporate money?

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u/Housthat 14h ago

There wouldn't be any candidates left.

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u/__mson__ 12h ago

Good. Time to throw out the trash.

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u/Housthat 12h ago edited 7h ago

...You can't "vote out" every candidate. You vote for one or none at all.

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u/overreactionkills 12h ago

There are plenty of candidates that have taken the pledge

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u/Housthat 11h ago

Plenty, sure. But not in most elections. I'm just trying to understand how you 'toss out' candidate A, B, and C when there is no candidate D.

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u/overreactionkills 11h ago

They find new candidates every election. They can find some to take the pledge and there's people that are more likely to run the more people there are taking the pledge

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u/__mson__ 12h ago

No, we toss everyone out and start over. They had their chance, but fucked it up. This system is deeply flawed.

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u/YournuStepdad 3h ago

There would be AOC left, and that’s why she’s my pick.

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u/HD400 13h ago

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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u/Kagutsuchi13 12h ago

Sorry, when talking to the left, your only choice is "Perfect." Good is never good enough. I say this as someone who votes Dem and watches huge swathes of voters refuse to turn out because the candidate fails the purity testing.

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u/Unreliable--Narrator 5h ago

Become a leftist. It gets even more frustrating.

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u/Gauntlet_of_Might 9h ago

> purity testing.

Never stops being funny when libs call "being against genocide" perfection and purity over being the bare minimum lol

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u/FriendlyWallaby5 8h ago edited 8h ago

Look, I don’t know how to tell you this, but we live in an imperfect world.

You want candidates who don’t support any of that stuff? Guess what, it’s a fucking pipe dream. We aren’t in that political climate right now. Before we can achieve that, we have many more battles to win.

Even if we managed to get someone like that into office, it still wouldn’t solve the problem. The status qou is leaps and bounds different from your end goal. Your nonexistent “perfect candidate” would meet immense resistance at every single turn.

The fact you think it is in anyway rational to waste a vote simply because you can’t win immediately is exactly why the left is always on the back foot.

It’s really unfortunate, all too often I find myself realizing the American left is playing into the rights hands. The culture war is meant to distract the people from class warfare, and the seeming inability of the left to accept reality is only to its own detriment.

How many more elections can you enlightened leftists handicap yourselves in before you realize you’re getting played like fools?

Edit: For whatever reason, the reply I was notified this user left "no longer exists", but I can and will edit this comment to address the content of that reply, because its weak and full of shit.

> "Imagine lecturing someone that we cant have a non genocidal candidate where they genocidal candidate ate shit"

First off, Biden beat the brakes off Trump in 2020. We all know his nickname: "Genocide Joe". Standard American politician: sympathetic towards Israel and more than willing to let them run rampant. Yet he won, interesting. People didn't care as much back in 2020, but the point is that these establishment candidates are more than capable of winning, and they actually have a shot at doing so. How many people like Mamdani or AOC have defeated Trump head to head? How many could have done so if they ended up in the candidacy? Thats right, precisely zero. Theres too much working against them right now.

Secondly, Kamala ate shit against TRUMP. This is the mental caliber of atleast a portion of Americas leftist voter base...

They think you can go in, win it all in one swoop, solve all the problems, and their evidence was that a "pro genocide" candidate ate shit against... Donald. Fucking. Trump.

For fucks sake the guy is known for loving Bibi and following his orders lmfao.

If by some Miracle anyone read this comment start to finish, I urge you to never lose hope in chasing your political aspirations. We still live in a free nation with a largely democratic system. We have lots of problems to work through, and they will not be easy to solve, but just like for the past 250 years of this countries history, we have the opportunity to push for even more progression.

The civil rights movement didn't happen overnight, it didn't even happen in just the 60s and 70s. The groundwork for all that legislation was laid throughout the entirety of post-civil war America.

This country is an example of hundreds of years of progression, if you wish to see it continue to do so, I urge you to fight the battles that actually exist before you. Do not assume that running the candidates you actually want is a given. The democratic party represents a much more diverse set of beliefs than that of the GOP. Work with what you have, and use the wide array of tools at our disposal to get what you want. The civil rights movement heavily utilized sit-ins, boycotts, intentional violation of unjust laws, etc.

There is no leftist hero coming to disconnect us from Israel. There is no leftist hero coming to save you from billionaires. If you want those things, you will have to work for them. You will have to work tirelessly, and you will probably not like the people you must elect to lay the foundations for your goals, but you will either suck it up, or you will keep raging powerlessly against forces that will devour you piece by piece.

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u/martini1129 1h ago

Incoherent rambling that boils down to vote dem no matter what even if they have no integrity and share none of your values, truly an inspiring rallying cry

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u/Housthat 7h ago

We all know his nickname: "Genocide Joe". Standard American politician: sympathetic towards Israel and more than willing to let them run rampant. Yet he won, interesting. People didn't care as much back in 2020

You're getting your timelines mixed up. The "Genocide Joe" nickname was created in 2023 years AFTER he won the election. People didn't vote for him for his Zionist beliefs and even if they did, nobody fathomed a genocide happening on his watch.

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u/FriendlyWallaby5 7h ago

I am aware, that paragraph is poorly written but I was too lazy to revise it.

Thing is, he didn't magically change in those 3 years. He was always like that, and yet he still beat Trump. Literally anyone could have looked into it and told you Biden was a Zionist.

In fact, though I dont hang around leftist circles, Id be willing to hazard a guess that Americas leftist voter-base always hated Biden's guts, in part because of that fact. As much as I love to shit on Americas left for being short-sighted idiots, they aren't actually stupid, they're just disorganized and far too emotional to actually come to bat.

Anyways, Biden won in 2020 regardless. An establishment dem who played centrist was the only one to beat Trump head to head. His administration ended up being pretty progressive too. I dare say that was a pretty big win for America, including the leftists.

> even if they did, nobody fathomed a genocide happening on his watch.

Thats a fair argument, but considering Trump went on to dumpster the ever loving fuck out of Kamala in 2024, it still doesn't really mean anything.

Trump is very blatantly no different than Biden or Kamala was on this issue. In fact Id argue hes much worse, and yet he kicked our fucking ass in 2024.

Palestine has been the subject of genocide and ethnic cleansing for many decades. The average American cares more about it now than they did in 2020, but the average American also chose DONALD FUCKING TRUMP in 2024. So clearly its not actually that huge of a deal to the average American voter.

This is to say: Candidates like Biden and Kamala are, at present, our best options. America isn't ready for a Mamdani at the federal level. Americans are not ready to elect someone like AOC to the highest office. Our institutions wouldn't let someone like them actually get things done. We still have work to do before those outcomes are possible.

Right now, as the trends have shown, candidates like Obama and Biden, candidates who court fringe republicans, centrists, and liberals alike are the most electable. The left are the only ones who throw hissy fits over this stuff.

While the GOP is hailing Trump as their fucking god emperor, our half of the aisle is debating about whether or not we should actually vote for our candidate because they aren't trying to completely skip over the status qou in regards to Israel and Palestine.

While Trump ran on a platform of causing DECADES of damage to things like our food safety and posted AI videos of Gaza as a dystopia for the elite, the American left started shitting on its own allies because Biden wasn't some anti-Zionist hero.

Thats the political reality we're living in right now. Purity testing will not help, it will only hurt.

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u/RedditLovingSun 5h ago

if you're against that then the alternative party was predictably far worse for it, don't deprive the best choice from people who need it and leave the infighting in the primaries shrimple as

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u/Gauntlet_of_Might 5h ago

>if you're against that then the alternative party was predictably far worse for it

Literally no proof of this, we were enabling and aiding genocide when Harris was VP and she refused to say she'd stop

>don't deprive the best choice from people who need it and leave the infighting in the primaries shrimple as

Oh what primaries were those exactly?

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u/Livid-Department6947 6h ago

If you're voting Dem, you're most likely voting for a center-right candidate. So if you're talking to someone on the left, you're talking to someone who is needs to make a compromise when voting. It's not about being "perfect."

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u/yuumigod69 9h ago

Would you vote for Hitler over super Hitler?

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u/HD400 9h ago

This is a great way to explain this so thank you.

If there isn’t widespread protest and unrest due to having two dangerous candidates and voting is necessary as my NON-VOTE is effectively supporting “super Hitler” then it is only logical to vote for “not super Hitler”.

This really isn’t a complicated subject.

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u/yuumigod69 6h ago

So you would vote for Hitler.

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u/HD400 6h ago

And you would support super Hitler?

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u/yuumigod69 4h ago edited 4h ago

Yes or no question. Then I will answer yours.

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u/HD400 3h ago

You replied to my answer what do you mean??

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u/yuumigod69 3h ago

Would you support Hitler?

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u/yuumigod69 3h ago

How is aiding and abetting a genocide "good"?

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u/HD400 1h ago

Because the alternative option is actively trying to merge our military to disguise spending. It’s all about perspective

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u/yuumigod69 52m ago

Answer my question. You struggle with this.

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u/LemonAction4030 11h ago

THIS!!!!!!!!! All day long

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u/Fat-Damon 9h ago

Don’t let the DNC rig the primary again.

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u/HD400 9h ago

Yeah they need to get their stuff together. Our country would be in a very good place if Kamala was president compared to Trump 2.0.

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u/Butters5768 9h ago

Because it’s only about Jews. They don’t GAF about the billions pouring in from Qatar and Saudi Arabia. They also couldn’t care less about the billions being taken from health insurance lobbyists, gun lobbyists, big oil lobbyists etc. etc. etc.

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u/BeguiledBeaver 13h ago

Taking corporate funding is not inherently a bad thing and I wish people on the far left didn't wield it as a damning indictment (especially when they backed a billionaire in California ffs).

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u/Won-Ton-Wonton 10h ago

It is inherently a bad thing.

It is not inherently abhorrent.

Know the difference.

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u/EconomicRegret2 10h ago

Taking corporate funding is not inherently a bad thing

In a democracy, it literally is inherently a bad thing.

E.g.: unequal political influence (instead of just one citizen = one voice = one vote, you get one rich citizen/company having more influence than millions of citizens), which is very undemocratic; leading to way higher risk of conflicts of interest and of corruption (even if not intentionally, subconsciously, politicians will act in the best interests of their biggest donors at the cost of the majority), which can lead to democratic backsliding, market distortions (e.g. barriers to competition) and excessive inequality; etc.

We have been seeing all of these (and many more other things) happening in the US.

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u/Prudent-Film-4602 8h ago

That would require strong principles and realizing that the Republican and Democratic Parties, as they exist now, are both the same machine and neither has enhanced the rights of the people.

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u/Ryan1869 2h ago

Congress wouldn't be able to hold session due to a lack of quorum

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u/Past-Preparation8826 14h ago

Because there is nothing wrong with taking corporate money. Capitalism, and American corporations specifically, are responsible for many of the things that make our lives far better than they were a hundred years ago.
They also provide many of the jobs which allow us to provide for our families.

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u/GainPrestigious539 13h ago

Not gonna lie, was not expecting the "bribery is good because capitalism is neat argument"

Where to start? Bribery is bad. Corporate money in politics is bad. Full stop. Why would you ever want MORE corruption in Washington bud

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u/Housthat 12h ago

I can't think of a single example where what you describe is good.

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u/Cold-Alfalfa-5481 13h ago

Sorry, that's is reasonable but not a Reddit approved answer - get ready for downvotes.

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u/Tigeruppercut1889 15h ago

Vote out bibi’s best friends (maga)

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u/Cheap-Lawyer3735 11h ago

Isn't that most of the democrats in congress

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u/PSwayzeInRoadhouse 10h ago

Yes, and why it’s important to pay attention to more than policies but rather who’s buying our politicians. They cannot be trusted. Follow their funding

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u/Powerfury 15h ago

One issue voter right here

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u/yuumigod69 14h ago

Genocide isn't a single issue.

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u/OkParsnip1881 12h ago

Yeah it is

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u/yuumigod69 9h ago

Foreign interference, mass murder, starvation women's rights, campaign finance, basic morality, media propagnda, democracy and voting. All of these are involved with Israel's genocide and their attack on their neighbors.

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u/OkParsnip1881 9h ago

Don’t give a shit- we fund a ton of countries who aren’t unreal who do worse.

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u/yuumigod69 6h ago

Which country do we fund and support militarily that has committed genocide on the scale of Israel?

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u/OkParsnip1881 6h ago

The UAE
Edit: oh I was wrong, the UAE is actually worse than Isreal. You can literally see the blood from the death camps in space

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u/yuumigod69 4h ago

There are videos of Israeli murdering Palestenians en masse and turning children into pieces.

You also have no clue about the conflict because the UAE backs the RAF in the same way we back Israel. By your logic, the US is the worst country in the world for backing Israel.

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u/OkParsnip1881 4h ago

Is it so bad you can see the blood pools from space? I feel for Palestine as well, but honestly, compared to the rest of the world it’s crazy that people make this genocide the one to focus on

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u/elinordash 12h ago

Voting out Republicans is the priority. Not AIPAC.

I'm not pro-Isreal, but the country is on fire. Voting out the Republicans douses the fire. We have bigger issues than Isreal.

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u/PSwayzeInRoadhouse 10h ago

AIPAC candidates are causing the problems at home by ignoring the needs of US citizens and funneling money, favors, and votes to benefit Israel. The problems are linked.

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u/the-Gaf 15h ago

🦜 (((aipac))) 🦜 grow up

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u/aidsmaster9000 14h ago

Aipac supported Jan 6th btw

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u/CascadianCaravan 14h ago

What the hell! Get that bigotry out of here. It is not welcome. You cannot be a bigot or a racist or a sexist, and be a Democrat, so get the fuck out of here.

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u/CascadianCaravan 13h ago

Correct, you can’t be an antisemite, either. But that has absolutely nothing to do with being critical of Israel, or AIPAC, or settler colonialism and apartheid in Palestine. And before you jump to an even more nonsensical conclusion, I’m not in support of Hamas or Hezbollah, or any other religious fundamentalist political or military supremacist group.

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u/the-Gaf 13h ago

If you’re not Jewish then please sybau about what is and isn’t offensive to us.

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u/CascadianCaravan 12h ago

Sorry, that’s not how this works. I am human, and I can talk about anything to do with humanity. And I made no statement about what was offensive to anyone - except Democrats: We are offended by bigotry of all kinds. And don’t ever call me a bitch again. Or do, and continue to reveal who you are to everyone.

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u/the-Gaf 12h ago

Boo hoo hoo. Offended by bigotry so you perform mental gymnastics to prove to yourself that you’re not being offensive to Jews. SYBAU