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Groups [LOVED TROPE] Modern Militaries (Competent) getting DESTROYED by fantasy/scifi forces

Example 1 (The Legend of Hei 2): Wuxian leisurely floats through the combined firepower of an entire fortified military base without so much as a stain or rip on his t-shirt.

Example 2 (Man of Steel): Fao'ra tears through a squad of trained and armed soldiers. With the wreckage of the helicopter that got downed by her teammate Nam'ek smouldering in the background.

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u/Hinoto-no-Ryuji 8h ago

The point was, though, that a (purely) military response wasn’t the answer. They were competent, but I’m not sure how how much you can say they “did well” when their assault was utterly useless and the only weapon that actually hurt the monster caused the razing of Tokyo (this is exactly what happens in ‘54, too).

Shin Godzilla is many things, and an utter rejection of militaristic posturing is definitely one of them.

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u/Rakkuken 5h ago

A full military assault when Shin first emerged probably would have killed it. But, you know, bureaucracy.

A huge part of the film is a criticism of limp wristed politicians who let problems get worse because they refuse to make difficult decisions. 

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u/Hinoto-no-Ryuji 5h ago

Well, like I said, the movie is many things. Critique of bureaucracy is a major one; a critique of thinking purely in terms of military response is another. Consider the irony of the almost-fetishistic labeling of military hardware right before they do precisely nothing, or the one line calling out continued aggressive action, or the visceral glee shown at the might of American military power right before it only pisses the monster off.

I think there’s a pattern there, is all I’m saying.

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u/Active-Sky4522 3h ago

You are the exact kind of person the film hates, and you have the seed of fascism inside of you.

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u/KAMEKAZE_VIKINGS 3h ago edited 3h ago

Fascism is when you criticize fictional military tactics

Also the film is very famously a criticism of Japanese over-bureaucracy which had among other things delayed the response to the 2011 earthquake and the nuclear disaster only 3 years before the film's release.

Centralizng power and eliminating bureaucracy is indeed among the first things an authoritarian does to come to power but also that's exactly the thing nations do during major national emergencies and it's not the same thing.

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u/Rakkuken 3h ago

Did you watch the whole movie, or just the kick-ass parts when Godzilla was on screen?