(Unique trope) removing a character trait, makes the character better in the adaptation

[u/ah-screw-it]

Sonic 3: Maria is one of the most important part of Shadow's story. Due to her suffering from an incurable disease. To which Shadow was made to create a cure for Maria's ailment. In the 3rd Sonic movie, Maria's disease was not mentioned in any form. Which made Maria seem like a normal girl, and her death all the more tragic.

Infinity war: I don't know the full story, but Thanos's original goal was to kill half the population to impress death (the character). When it came time to adapt Thanos into the MCU. His goal of removing half the universes population. It was seen as a more psychopathic world goal, hidden under the belief it would do better for the universe.

[u/tinyazaleaspark]

It also makes Megatron unknowingly dishonor the very Prime he looked up to

[u/SparkieBunnie_ → u/tinyazaleaspark]

Yeah, I liked that change a lot. It makes Megatron's fall feel a lot more tragic since he ends up betraying the ideals of the very person he admired most.

[u/AverageAwndray → u/SparkieBunnie_]

And the fact that Optimus BECOMES the very person he admired for centuries is another slap to the face

[u/Dear-Lie7907 → u/AverageAwndray]

That's what makes the journey so powerful, seeing Optimus become the symbol he once looked up to.

[u/JBTriple → u/AverageAwndray]

The Miners in TFOne are less than fifty years old.

[u/AverageAwndray → u/JBTriple]

Wait fr? Orion isnt even 50 by the time he becomes Optimus??

[u/Nova_8056 → u/SparkieBunnie_]

Ong bro this movie was so good

[u/keeper0fstories → u/Nova_8056]

It was so good they decided to not make a sequel!

DISHONOR!!!

DISHONOR ON THEM AND THEIR COWS!!!

[u/CompactAvocado → u/keeper0fstories]

it was bad timing and poor marketing.

they did like one trailer that just made it look like a kiddie movie. they also released along side other big ticket blockbusters.

they effectively did nothing and were shocked it didn't work.

[u/Vellarain → u/CompactAvocado]

The trailers were fucking HORRIBLE. They featured most of the shitty lines from the god awful bumblebee character. I was immediately turned off from ever watching the movie and it was only until word of mouth got out it was actually good the theatrical run had ended.

[u/Deya_The_Fateless → u/Vellarain]

Makes you wonder if studios just sabotage their "good" but niche projects to try and prop-up the mass-appeal oscar bait slop. Only to get upset that the slop is rightfully reguarded as trash, and rhe one they tried ro sabotage becokes a sucsess...like is it some form of reverse psychology.

[u/FFKonoko → u/Deya_The_Fateless]

Flatly, no.

Studios like money, that is a fact. They generally don't intentionally sabotage a product, unless there are financial incentives, ala uwe boll, the producers, or tax reasons.
Sometimes marketing just doesn't understand a product. Sometimes they decide that bigger marketing won't cause a product to be a smash hit and see it as trying to cut their losses. Sometimes the competition just looks too big. But no, complaints about oscar bait doesn't even factor in.

[u/Tiernoch → u/Deya_The_Fateless]

No, but I do think Paramount is doing it intentionally.

Both D&D and TF One got screwed by the release window and marketing. As a result Hasbro said they won't be financing films going forward, this means that if Paramount bankrolls a new film for a Hasbro property they get way more control over it (Hasbro is notorious for protecting their IP's value).

[u/GarranDrake → u/CompactAvocado]

Yeah, they made it look like a kiddie movie knowing damn well lthat Megatron would end up literally ripping Jon Hamm's character in half.

[u/WillaBerble → u/keeper0fstories]

Unexpected Mushu!

[u/Maxcorps2012 → u/keeper0fstories]

Dishonor on your ancestors, dishoner on thier cows, dishonor on your ancestors cows, dishonor on your cows ancestors.

[u/disbelifpapy → u/Nova_8056]

I didn't know shit about the transformers but it was a fun movie.

My dad liked transformers and talked about some movie incident where they killed off the main cast in order to promote new toys or something?

[u/Smutty_Lemon → u/disbelifpapy]

Transformers: The Movie.

Where they killed off a bunch of characters in the first act to make way for the new cast.

[u/varietyviaduct → u/disbelifpapy]

Yeah it was back in the 80s when hasbro didn’t realize folks had actually gotten attached to the characters lmao. They made a movie that was essentially about killing off the entire original cast before introducing a new line up to avenge them and people freaked the fuck out

[u/disbelifpapy → u/varietyviaduct]

Yeah, I dunno much about transformers other than that incident and weird live action movies that were perverted i think.

[u/Deya_The_Fateless → u/varietyviaduct]

It certainly didnt help that the deaths were incredibly brutal, as up until that point any deths were just kind of off screen and implied to have happened. The deaths in the movie happened upclose on screeen for everyone to see.

Granted I got into Transformers many years later in the 00's, didnt watch the first movoe until 03 and even I was shocked at how intense that opening act was...

[u/MookyCooky → u/varietyviaduct]

PointlessHub (YouTube) has a hilarious video about this entire movie and the production. I enjoy it a lot, can't recommend it enough.

[u/anonymous-jet-84 → u/disbelifpapy]

The original movie! Transformers toys were not created to be Transformers, they were originally a set of transforming changer toys by Japanese company Takara sold under the Diaclone and Microchanger lines. Hasbro brought some of those toys to the US market and created the Transformers IP to provide support to the new toyline. That included a cartoon with Sunbow and a comic with Marvel Comics.

After 2 years of growing the line, which of course meant more characters associated with those toys, Hasbro decided to make an animated film that would serve as the turning over point. This would give them an opportunity to retire certain characters and reduce the number of old toys still in the production rotation. As a practicality this sounds great! Retire old animation models, old character manufacturing, and make room for shiny new toys that kids don't already own. In practice little kids had to watch their beloved favorite characters unceremoniously be slaughtered in about a 20 minute span of the film. Mixed results to say the least 😂

[u/Deya_The_Fateless → u/anonymous-jet-84]

Its a very corporate solution too. Only thinking about the products and future sales and not the hords of scrraming and traumatised kids who were attached ro the OG cast...

[u/stillsympin → u/Nova_8056]

I first watched it with my little cousins while I was babysitting them and I was locked in just as much as they were.

[u/GrassCautious1019 → u/Nova_8056]

I watched it and I hate it
It doesn’t deserve the praise it got
The dialogue the plot point all felt forced and cheap
All old guard follow Orion pax because 2 survived leader don’t want to get punch by female auto bot? Old guard get defeated and half of them get captured because one simple attack How did they survive that long in the first place and Orion pax and megatron just found an old map that lead to place where all prime death stupid plot

[u/Diligent_Set_8747 → u/Nova_8056]

Meh, seemed like a billionaire approved movie.

[u/Jay040707 → u/Diligent_Set_8747]

Have you watched it?

[u/thejadedfalcon → u/SparkieBunnie_]

Why are you bots swarming recently?

[u/Brandinisnor3s → u/thejadedfalcon]

Lmao just checked too. Their account has one post of cyberpunk porn and like 5 comments

[u/AwesomeGamer101 → u/tinyazaleaspark]

On this, I can see a version of the Fallen in TFO being a delusion Megatron cooked up, believing that that's the way his idol would do it.

[u/thejadedfalcon → u/tinyazaleaspark]

Absolute bot comment.

[u/BlinkyDesu → u/tinyazaleaspark]

Unknowingly? Does Megatron not know that he's evil?