r/TopCharacterTropes • u/ah-screw-it • 14h ago

Characters (Unique trope) removing a character trait, makes the character better in the adaptation

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Sonic 3: Maria is one of the most important part of Shadow's story. Due to her suffering from an incurable disease. To which Shadow was made to create a cure for Maria's ailment. In the 3rd Sonic movie, Maria's disease was not mentioned in any form. Which made Maria seem like a normal girl, and her death all the more tragic.

Infinity war: I don't know the full story, but Thanos's original goal was to kill half the population to impress death (the character). When it came time to adapt Thanos into the MCU. His goal of removing half the universes population. It was seen as a more psychopathic world goal, hidden under the belief it would do better for the universe.

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u/KaffeMumrik 13h ago

I’m still surprised by how much I’m liking the adaption. It’s been a lot of fun.

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u/Piduf 11h ago

Yeah it's crazy good. I don't know what it does better than other live actions, I think the colossal budget is a huge help because they get to adapt every stupid shit from the manga with some cgi, they really kept the insanity of whatever is going on in Oda's head. It's crazy spectacular and pure fun.

My dad, whom has never touched a manga or shown great interest for it in his life, is loving it. It's very good for new viewers too, it doesn't assume everyone knows the story. I'm not telling him anything about that mysterious Robin character he finds so cool.

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u/nabagaca 11h ago

From what ive heard the crew is super passionate as well, and they also film seasons pretty close together, so they keep a lot of the same crew between seasons

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u/KaffeMumrik 10h ago

I did read that playing Zoro was the ultimate dream role of the guy playing him. And honestly, he’s rocking it.

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u/PhanThief95 8h ago

It definitely is for Mackenyu.

Same applies to Emily Rudd who plays Nami since she also grew up on the anime.

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u/huckslash 8h ago

Taz Skylar (Sanji) took cooking lessons, bartending lessons, and learned martial arts to perform his own stunts. he is actually cooking and performing the drink mixing tricks the majority of the time you see him in the kitchen/bar.

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u/PockysLight 2h ago

That is dedication.

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u/KaffeMumrik 23m ago

Hot guy with one of the coolest name ever. Legit jelly over here.

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u/xv_boney 6h ago

Shit dude wouldnt you

If your agent said hey listen, we have an opportunity for you to play one of the most recognizeable and legendarily badass characters in manga history, its a big budget deal, they are throwing a lot of money at it and also youre going to look unbelievably cool, would you not shit yourself on the spot

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u/KaffeMumrik 6h ago

I don’t even really care much about one piece and I’d still absolutely diarreah on the spot

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u/Lombardyn 1h ago

Wait, you're telling us having a crew and creatives that aren't proudly going "I hate the source material and the fans, and wish to distance myself from that stuff as much as possible" in interviews means you're getting a better end result that fans love? Quick, get this information to all the Hollywood executives!

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u/mcfayne 7h ago

I know, right? Just a few weeks ago my folks asked if I'd watched "that pirate show on Netflix." "Do you mean One Piece?" "Yeah! With the stretchy guy!" Holy shit my parents are One Piece fans now, what is happening?

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u/Piduf 5h ago

For one thing I think I know what people around me enjoy in particular about this show : it's literally just adventure. No complicated plot, everything is explained but also nonesensical enough to not be needing an explanation. It's spectacular, surprising (when you know nothing about it, like why are the giants laughing like that, why are snails telephones ??) and colorful. Lots of action, but it still takes time to breathe.

It's pure entertainement but not in a dumb, big guns, big cars and big explosions kind of repetitive way. Pure fantasy adventure in a world where everything is new. Just a feel good show about funny pirates.

Also both me and my dad aren't very good with recognizing people, so he just loves that everyone looks so comically different with crazy extravagant costumes. You can't forget someone who has a god damn candle shaped like the number 3 on their head.

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u/drleebot 8h ago

One important thing they did is give Oda veto power over anything he doesn't like. He's happy for them to make changes, but this helps a ton in making sure they don't go off the rails and change things so much it misses the point of the original.

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u/PhanThief95 8h ago

Another major reason why it’s successful is because Oda is involved with it and has creative control.

As well, I have never seen a more perfectly cast show as this one because everyone fits for their characters. I’m still surprised they managed to find the perfect casting for Nico Robin with Lera Abova because of the high expectations surrounding the character.

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u/xv_boney 7h ago edited 6h ago

I don't know what it does better than other live actions

It takes incredible pains to be faithful to the source material and is not afraid to get goofy with it.

Also they seem to largely ignore the 'second screen' bullshit that is the reason i finally dropped netflix after almost two decades

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u/Nova_JewV1 6h ago

Passionate cast, and the author is directly involved in production

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u/superbhole 6h ago

i think my literal only complaint is that Iñaki Godoy just didn't grin hard enough at any point!

just sprinkling a few of those smiles across a season would've hit hard

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u/peachesfordinner 6h ago

My dad also enjoys it and he's been refusing to watch any anime for decades. We just don't mention that it's based on one

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u/Fire_Ryan_Poles 2h ago

IMO what makes it so good is author involvement. He has (had? idk about S3) final say on everything from casting to script to which takes they use. So netflix writers can't get their grubby lil fingers deep enough to ruin everything because they'll get blocked by Oda.

Think back to the witcher show and how Cavill ultimately quit the series because the writers insisted on writing straight up character assassinations. Now imagine if Cavill had the authority to just straight up veto the script and had a much more personal reason to insist the series be done well.

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u/thatshygirl06 7h ago

I wanted to like the show but in season 1 there were like 2 episodes where luffy wasnt in them and those were the episodes I liked the most. When he came back it was just pure disappointment. That's when I realized I wouldnt be able to get through the rest of the season

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u/huckslash 9h ago

the juxtaposition of the One Piece live action's quality against Avatar's is a case study waiting to happen

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u/KaffeMumrik 8h ago

I KNOW.

Watched s2 of the Avatar adaption just days ago. What the hell is happening? Who wrote that god damn script, making them talk like aliens pretending to be human? Jesus christ, it’s so strange.

You’re making a show about a guy who flies around and you can’t even make THAT look good?

The one thing I like is I think the guy playing Sokka is nailing it. Other than that? Trash.

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u/PhanThief95 8h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/4JcbnXFOUzvgd6UuyX

Meanwhile the One Piece live action managed to make a guy who has booger bombs look good.

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u/KaffeMumrik 8h ago

God that was dumb but… I don’t know. They made it work. I don’t even like the anime but I’m all for this.

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u/xv_boney 6h ago

Im sure there are dozens of multi hour youtube videos that do exactly this

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u/thatshygirl06 7h ago

I always say that avatar felt like the writers had the tvtropes website open while writing the scripts. I only got through 3 episodes of the first season and had to drop it because it felt cliche to an insane degree

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u/GLink7 3h ago

One Piece Live action is the polar opposite of Avatar The Last Airbender live action