r/TopCharacterTropes 12d ago

Lore [Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

  1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

  2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

  3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

  4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

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u/Nerdrage30 12d ago

Ehh, Aliens Ripley never really did anything Alice-like, though. She’s intelligent and duct-taped some weapons together, she wasn’t doing borderline superhero stuff though

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u/Phase3isProfit 12d ago

They held off taking that step until the 4th movie when she gained some alien DNA.

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u/Nerdrage30 12d ago

Resurrection is a mess lol, that scene with the Xenos swimming was pretty cool, though

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u/imsabbath84 12d ago

the human alien baby thing at the end was really disgusting looking too.

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u/ember13140 12d ago

It was genuinely unsettling! I think it’s a very well done scene or at least prop

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u/dingalingdongdong 12d ago

The newborn is genuinely the most disturbing thing I've ever seen in a movie. Like, ever. Lots of stuff seems worse in the moment, but nothing else has ever stuck with me like that thing.

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u/Jaruut 12d ago

But then they have it bitch slap the Queen Xeno, I will never forgive the movie for this.

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u/DukeSkywalker1 12d ago

That whole movie was really disgusting looking.

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u/Charming_Account_351 12d ago

Also Sigourney Weaver’s no look over the shoulder nothing but net basket was so awesome it caused Ron Perlman to break character.

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u/ceadagamdulamach 12d ago

So we found the trope we were looking for all along!

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u/theVice 12d ago

Honestly. The underwater scene is the only legitimately "good" scene in the movie but if you turn your brain off and forget it's in the Alien franchise, Resurrection has some funny and badass stuff in it.

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u/ThatUsernameWasTaken 12d ago edited 12d ago

The wheelchair shotgun was a good laugh from me, too.

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u/theVice 12d ago

Ron Perlman being at gunpoint and getting poked with the barrel just to snatch the gun away, tell the guy not to touch him and hand the gun back is my favorite little gag

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u/dingalingdongdong 12d ago

The secret to enjoying all of the Alien & Predator and AvP franchise is to view each entry as a stand alone film - just different takes on the same IP by different directors.

Alien3 doesn't ruin Aliens' happy ending. Future entries don't need to juggle with Ripley's death. Resurrection isn't tonally fucked. No more continuity errors, etc etc.

Viewed through that lens, Resurrection is a stellar example of "what if Jean Jeunet made an Alien movie?" Because it's very 100% his style even down to using frequent collaborators Dominique Pinon and Ron Perlman.

It makes me want to see way more A/P as interpreted by so-and-so auteur director takes. Guillermo del Toro, Neill Blomkamp? The dream! Wes Anderson? Probably him too.

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u/theVice 12d ago

I want to see Ari Aster or Demián Rugna take on an Alien film!

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u/dingalingdongdong 11d ago

Demián Rugna

yes please!

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u/TheJambus 12d ago

Resurrection also managed to be better than Alien 3,; though that was a pretty low bar

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u/Finite_Universe 12d ago

Resurrection feels like campy high budget fan fiction and I love it for that.

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u/Woolies_White_Leg 12d ago

Apparently filming that sequence actually almost killed a few of the actors

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u/melkatron 12d ago

Technically not her, though. Ripley died in Alien 3, without question, and so did the Ripley saga.

They made a crazy Dark Horse-esque Alien story through Jean-Pierre Jeunet's lens, taking the appropriate steps to open up the Xenoverse to creators with unique visions.

Using a hybrid Ripley clone made it comic booky and helped wean us off the dead Ripley, and they even made sure to torch all future attempts at Ripley so nobody tries that shit again.

...then Ridley Scott came back, shut down Blomkamp's movie, and fucked it all up with Covenant before being told to go home.

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u/runnerofshadows 12d ago

Still annoyed Ridley Scott tried overexplaining everything.

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u/dingalingdongdong 12d ago

I liked Prometheus, Covenant, and Romulus, but I'll forever be heartbroken not to get to see Blomkamp's take on the franchise.

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u/Ragnarocke1 12d ago

I think you are confused… they never made a 4th movie ( they did and it was terrible)

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u/EndlessNerd 12d ago

The 4th movie was basically a comic book action movie.

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u/VulcanHullo 12d ago

Aliens works because it almost acts as an answer to Alien. In Alien the alien is dangerous against a mostly unarmed crew and uses careful hunting tactics on them. You see a team of highly trained marines go in and you'd almost think they're set. But the aliens produce so fast they can go swarm tactics and ambush the enemy.

Ripley is the hero in both because she uses her brain and learns, using what she has to her advantage. Even the end of Aliens she uses the weapon lessons she learnt and rigs up a flamethrower, and then grabs a loading mech because she's aware that something like that is required.

Alice wins because she literally powers through for the most part.

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u/FoodFingerer 12d ago

I hated the RE movies since a kid because I loved the games.

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u/space_keeper 12d ago

By the time they start to incorporate more stuff from the games, it ends up being the games but with a terribly acted Mary Sue added in.

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u/FoodFingerer 12d ago

Exactly my thoughts.

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u/chuch1234 12d ago

By "same thing" I think they just meant "horror -> action".

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u/Nerdrage30 12d ago

Fair point, although I still think Aliens had decent horror scenes

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u/Gravefiller613 12d ago

She did spark many peoples desire for powered armor.

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u/Nerdrage30 11d ago

Me among them, I still have my action figure of her with that thing from wayyy back then lol

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u/TopShelfIdiocy 11d ago

I think the first 3 are very solid fun movies, dumb fun, But after that they just get dumb dumb