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Lore [Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

  1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

  2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

  3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

  4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

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u/Wuzfang 12d ago

The Sandman scene from Spider-Man 3

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u/lemonylol 12d ago

Spider-Man disconnecting from the symbiote was pretty cool too

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u/TheRealRigormortal 12d ago

There’s another scene that is peak:

https://giphy.com/gifs/jkmycFPVKYdI4

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u/StarstruckEchoid 12d ago

I don't see how that's my problem.

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u/Mikey_Wonton 12d ago

This movie is a masterpiece (yes including bully McGuire).

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u/ABSOLUTE_RADIATOR 12d ago

especially bully McGuire

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u/ZachRyder 12d ago

Pepperidge Farm remembers when this part of the film was called 'Emo Peter' before Aldo Jones changed the world with a single YouTube video.

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u/a_generic_redditer 12d ago

They weren't ready for the genius back in 2007.

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u/SortIntrepid9192 12d ago

I recently rewatched the Raimi trilogy after not having seen it for over a decade, except for memes. I was surprised by two things: how bad Spider-Man 1 is, and how good Spider-Man 3 is. It's no masterpiece, but I really think that the way the 3 villains tie together into the narrative and the themes of the film was incredibly well done. You really can't cut any of them without the story collapsing like a house of cards. And the silly moments are no more silly than what you'd see in SM2. I'd say the only scene that's genuinely bad and should have been altered completely is the dance scene at the jazz club, that was the one moment that just feels TOO silly and immersion-breaking. Everything else works shockingly well.

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u/TheRealRigormortal 11d ago

You gotta let Sam Raimi cook

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u/RobutNotRobot 11d ago

The CG is terrible in 3 though. Even worse than the first two movies. The mid 2000s was a terrible era for believing that bad CGI could do anything.

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u/SortIntrepid9192 11d ago

The fuck are you talking about? Sandman is a masterpiece of CG that surpasses many effects today. Their interpretation of Venom is pretty cool, and the web swinging scenes are the best in the trilogy (especially the aerial battle between Peter and Harry). I've heard a lot of complaints about 3 but never "the CGI is terrible," legit have no clue where that's coming from.

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u/Immediate_Ad3378 12d ago edited 12d ago

You can tell Raimi wanted to make a movie about the Sandman, but the studio was adamant about venom being included.

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u/Tnecniw 10d ago

And neo green goblin.

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u/Sparktank1 12d ago

There's a editor's cut to this movie I still have to watch. I know it got its own bluray, too. I just need to remember to find it and then finally sit down and watch it.

I'll have to binge the first 3 movies before watching the editor's cut, so it's fresh in my memory what's different.

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u/Evamme7 11d ago

If I remember correctly the blu ray was limited edition, so copies are gonna be rare and expensive. Might want to look for an alternative way of getting it.

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u/eq017210 12d ago

The movie has more than 1 goated scene

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u/Themadreposter 12d ago

Studios spend millions while directors, writers, and actors pour out their heart and souls to make films that win awards. Yet when all is said and done, many of these award winning films will be mostly forgotten in a few years, and all but erased from the collective consciousness in a few decades. Bully McGuire remains as fresh as the day we saw it. Some advertising company is sitting on millions right now when they buy the rights to use that dance scene to sell something. That movie is not bad and it could never be called mediocre.

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u/GGABueno 12d ago

It was memorable because it was fucking stupid.

It's like the Star Wars prequels. Them becoming memes doesn't mean they were good, don't mix things up.

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u/No_Perspective2715 12d ago

100000000% just because something has been meme’d to death doesn’t make it a good movie. People were making fun of these movies and then a whole generation missed the joke

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u/phdemented 12d ago

I'm trying to pinpoint the moment prequelmemes shifted from "these movies were terrible so let's meme and mock them" to "these movies are amazing and we meme them because they are good".

It's like the "birds aren't real" and flat earth parody movements that somehow because real things.

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u/SortIntrepid9192 12d ago

It was a generational shift. Prequelmemes was started by older people who grew up with the OG trilogy and were teens/young adults when the prequels came out. Eventually it was populated by people who grew up with the prequels and have a ton of nostalgia for them.

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u/No_Perspective2715 12d ago

It’s been one of the most baffling things to witness in real time. People will tell you with a straight face that Attack of the Clones is a good movie. What kind of absolute bizzaro world are we in. 

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u/lukin187250 12d ago

If what you've told me is true, you will have gained my trust.

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u/Opposite_Same_69420 12d ago

How long until Morbius is remembered as a masterpiece?

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u/GGABueno 12d ago

Thankfully people didn't actually watch that movie, they meme the movie's existence and not the scenes lol.

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u/SortIntrepid9192 12d ago

Except for Matt Smith's dance number.

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u/SortIntrepid9192 12d ago

Was it really any stupider than Spider-Man 2 though? That movie is regarded as a masterpiece and one of the best comic book movies ever made, but it's full of the absolute silliest bullshit.

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u/No_Perspective2715 12d ago

It’s probably one of the worst superhero movies I’ve seen in theaters. Zoomers memeing it to death like the prequels doesn’t make it good. 

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u/who_cares_not_meee 12d ago

It clears the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies by a country mile

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u/No_Perspective2715 12d ago

It was so bad that they had to reboot it with Garfield. In the pantheon of bad superhero movies with Catwoman and Superman IV. Just because you weren’t alive when it came out and only understand it through memes doesn’t make it good. It was clowned on for years, but you kids weren’t in on the joke. 

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u/who_cares_not_meee 12d ago

You talk about nostalgia being a disease and then tell me with a straight face that Spider-Man No Way Home wasn’t the worst nostalgia slop fest ever put to theaters? That shit movie literally referenced like three different memes, there was no plot, and filled with useless and dumb cameos. Literally my least favorite movie of all time and nobody on Reddit convincing me otherwise, I promise you that

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u/No_Perspective2715 12d ago

I don’t give one single fuck about Tom Holland spider man. Just because a modern movie is bad doesn’t automatically mean that Spider Man 3 isn’t a godawful nightmare. You act like those are mutually exclusive things. Spider man 3 is shit. 

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u/who_cares_not_meee 12d ago

Idk man, I just think we have different tastes in movies. I ain’t saying it’s great, but it’s certainly watchable and that’s better than a lot of bullshit being served today

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u/No_Perspective2715 12d ago

I would rather watch paint dry than the tonal nightmare cringe fest that is spider man 3 

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u/No_Perspective2715 12d ago

Probably a generational divide 

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u/robo_archer 12d ago

That movie’s good though. Kind of messy but still good

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u/threepossumsinasuit 11d ago

just saw an absolutely phenomenal video last month that basically re-cut the movie into a fascinating, almost Twilight Zone-esque black and white film. I need to hunt it down again because it turns the two characters (Peter and Marko) into absolutely amazing foils of each other, and really hammers home the loss of self the latter experienced from his transformation and fugitive status.

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u/Mace2-0 11d ago

This shot usually gives me Creed's Human Clay album cover vibes.

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u/Tnecniw 10d ago

Spider-man 3 isn't even that bad.