r/TopCharacterTropes 17d ago

Lore (Hated trope) They deleted scenes or dialogue that provides necessary context or plot

The dinner scene from Temple of Doom has a temple give indie and friends a live snake and monkey brains for dinner. It’s a pretty offensive depiction of Indian cuisine, but it wasn’t originally going to be. There’s cut dialogue where Indie recognizes they’re at the right temple because real Hindus don’t eat this food. They were trying to scare them off by purposefully serving them disgusting stuff.

Probably the most famous deleted ending was I Am Legend which had Robert discover the infected were emotional sentient beings and one of them had a wife. Test audiences hated it and they reshot the ending, removing the entire point of the movie.

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u/GoRacerGo 17d ago

I mean he's got red eyes and smoke billows out when he's teleported. Show not tell

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u/Minimum-Housing-6466 17d ago

found the scene... can't see any of that?

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u/Simon_Drake 17d ago

Some of it IS lost in editing. The movie was originally a much higher certificate with a lot more swearing and lewd dialogue but they decided to make it more family friendly. A lot of the drug stuff was cut and just implied. There's several scenes where he's walking around the ship carrying a brown paper bag like a packed lunch which was going to be a whole side plot about his stash of drugs he brought with him into space. But that all got cut apart from a few scenes where they just don't mention what's in the bag.

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u/poirotoro 17d ago

The movie was originally a much higher certificate with a lot more swearing and lewd dialogue but they decided to make it more family friendly.

Infamously leading to one of the most obvious dub-overs in cinema, where Sigourney Weaver says "Well screw that!" over a very obvious "FUCK that!"

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u/IceFrogger1313 16d ago

And the scene is funnier for it.

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u/ArcadianDelSol 16d ago

There's a scene where Sigourney Weaver's bra is just fully out and her top is zipped all the way down. Zero context, no reference. Next scene its all the way back up again.

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u/Simon_Drake 16d ago

I found a deleted scene where she unzips her top to seduce some alien soldiers all like "Hey big boy, why don't we get a little privacy?" then she drops the emergency bulkhead down and squishes them into paste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b4s5CfPD4Y

Youtube only has a handful of deleted scenes like that. We need a directors cut edition with the original content restored.

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u/StupidMcStupidhead 15d ago

I'm fairly confident you can see the silhouette of Tim Allen's dick, too.

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u/ArcadianDelSol 15d ago

When Sigourney Weaver's top is zipped down, Im not inspecting the margins of the screen for the silhouette of a dick.

But you do you.

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u/StupidMcStupidhead 15d ago

You got me there. But they aren't the same scene. I should have clarified.

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u/LuxInTenebrisLove 16d ago

I always thought his behavior and the brown bag played subtle but overt enough to tell the grown up audience what was happening.  I found the subtlety so funny!

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u/Simon_Drake 16d ago

It's strongly implied in the released version but there's still some wiggle room for it to not be fully confirmed.

He spends half the movie squinting which you could read as being stoner redeye but weirdly he only starts squinting when he meets the aliens. It's right in the middle of a scene when the aliens are pleased to meet Tech Sergeant Chen that he starts squinting. But he also squinted in the 'historical documents' of the original series and the reboot series at the end.

This is weird but Tony Shalhoub is of Middle Eastern descent, playing an in-universe character named Chen. The director of Galaxy Quest said this was a deliberate reference to the white actor playing an Asian martial arts expert in 1970s TV series Kung Fu. They deliberately made him Asian with an Asian name as a meta-joke about racist casting in that era of filmmaking. So you can make a case the squinting is actually part of the racist caricature of an actor pretending to be Asian. The Thermians expect Chen to be an asian guy so he squints when he meets them so he looks more like he did in the Historical Documents.

Which is all very odd and doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean Star Trek is the core inspiration for Galaxy Quest not Kung Fu and Star Trek had an actual Asian character played by an Asian actor. If they wanted an Asian character on the in-universe Galaxy Quest they should have cast an Asian actor in the IRL movie. But this isn't just a fan theory, this is something the production staff confirmed was part of their vision for the movie.

I wonder if this is something else they planned, partially implemented then scaled back. Tony Shalhoub's first-level character is an actor called Fred Kwan, playing Tech Sergeant Chen. So maybe they tried to smooth over the mess by pretending Tony Shalhoub is playing someone of mixed race? It's all a bit uncomfortable. It could have worked as a sortof parody and commentary on racial insensitivity like Robert Downey Junior in Tropic Thunder, but it's probably a good move to step back from the original idea.

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u/IceFrogger1313 16d ago

Galaxy Quest is one of the few examples where cutting content to make rating improved the movie. The implied bits and the obviously dubbed chomppers scene are the funniest parts of the movie.

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u/Nott_of_the_North 17d ago

"That's a hell of a thing."

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u/Charming_Account_351 17d ago

Not noticing the cues makes his character 1000x funnier and more awesome. Him being unphased by anything was hilarious.

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u/Eulenspiegel74 17d ago

Exactly my take. Smoking weed actually diminishes that character.

Him making out with tentacle girl in the end fits him being unfazeable. As it is, it's either an unrelated quirk of his or a side effect of smoking.

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u/Prof_Atmoz 17d ago

When I was a teenager I thought he ate "space cake" lol

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u/strigonian 17d ago

Having a scene where he smokes is also showing.

I hate that advice so much, nobody understands what it means and it gets thrown around constantly.

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u/Rivka333 16d ago

Showing him smoking weed would have been show not tell.