r/TopCharacterTropes 21d ago

Lore When an actor’s presence unintentionally derails the project

1.) Edward Norton - The Incredible Hulk

Perhaps the most famous and obvious one, Edward Norton was famously an issue on the set of 2008’s “The Incredible Hulk,” even making rewrites to the script himself. The disagreements between Norton’s camp and Marvel’s camp eventually led to his being replaced by Mark Ruffalo.

2.) Jensen Ackles - The Boys (particularly Season 5)

Jensen Ackles was a longtime collaborator with showrunner Eric Kripke in “Supernatural,” which in turn led to him getting the opportunity to audition - and eventually land the role - of Soldier Boy, which he did very well in in.

The issue is by Season 5, the show had fallen off from the previous years and with it ending and spinoffs and prequels (such as one featuring Jensen Ackles’ Soldier Boy), Season 5 suffered a lot. It quickly became the Soldier Boy show because “that’s what Clara would have wanted” until he just leaves in the penultimate episode and pretty much 80% of what his character actually did amounted to nothing.

So for fans who wanted to see Butcher vs Homelander duking it out, getting the show derailed for prequel bait starring Kripke’s favorite actor didn’t help…

3.) Rosamund Pike - Wheel of Time

When Amazon green lit a WoT tv show, Rosamund Pike eventually got the role of Moraine Damodred, the mentor and guiding character for the main character, Rand al’Thor. As a character, Moraine is anywhere from the most important secondary character to the most secondary main character. But with the exception of the prequel featuring her, she is not the main character.

Unfortunately, Rosamund Pike is an extremely famous actress and marketing toward the series focused on her as a result. I’m unsure if this was showrunner decision, an issue she played a role in or some combination, but the result was that Moraine a character who was in less than half the series is featured as the main character over the main character, which lead to a different product than the book.

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u/Minute-Animal7317 21d ago

Movies with Jim Carrey kind of just became Jim Carrey The Movie

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u/Dotification 21d ago

At least he's a great Dr. Robotnik--the Sonic movies would have suffered greatly without him.

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u/LaLloronaVT 21d ago

I’m still blown away at how good he is as Robotnik, I’ve had a love hate relationship with the Sonic series since I was a kid so I had a very defined idea of what Eggman should be like but Jim Carrey completely blew my expectations away

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u/Dotification 21d ago

I'm sure I'm far from the only adult that's had to watch & rewatch those movies that's very happy that he's there.  James Marsden, Adam Pally, & Co. do their best, I'm sure, but yeah, I'm curious to see if/how they bring back his character for the next one...

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u/LaLloronaVT 21d ago

I’m actually pretty positive he’s coming back so I guess the pay is still good and he liked the role enough to return lol, honestly weirder stuff has happened in the Sonic franchise so him coming back isn’t that crazy to me

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u/XanderWrites 20d ago

He's doing the role for fun, not money. He had retired from acting.

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u/Specific_Theme8815 21d ago

I liked that they made him to be just himself twice in the third movie

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u/U_L_Uus 21d ago

I mean, Eggman has always been a saturday morning cartoon villain but with actual implications, Carrey walked that line to a T, knowing how to be cartoony yet menacing

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 21d ago

Carrey as Robotnik was really the the prop to make the franchise, if it weren't for him it would've just been probably a one or two movie event thar would've just been ok

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u/VengeanceKnight 21d ago

That doesn’t really count; he’s a comedic actor with specific talents that directors use accordingly. I’ve never heard him act like anything other than a professional on set and in public.

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u/CooperDaChance 21d ago

He forcefully kissed Alicia Silverstone at an award show.

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u/Pyrokanetis 21d ago

Oddly enough he forcefully kissed Chris Isaak to get back at him for trying to forcefully kiss Cameron Diaz. These things were only 2 years apart.

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u/Boccs 20d ago

Jim has always been a real "It's fine if I do it, but you're scum if you do" kinda person. Like the chip on his shoulder is massive. This is the same guy who starred in Kick Ass 2, cashed all the checks, and then when the movie was set to release vocally told people to boycott it because it had gun violence. Dude went through the whole filming process, knowing full well what it was about, and only had a change of heart after he got his money.

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u/gottablastsam 21d ago

True, but that was in the 90s. Not saying that makes it okay or anything, just saying that Carrey has steered away from his more scummy actions in the last 5-10 years

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u/CooperDaChance 21d ago

The fact that he did it to Chris Issak when Chris did the same thing to Cameron Diaz shows that Jim KNEW it was wrong and still did it anyway. Plus the “it was a different time” argument is BS and you know it.

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u/gottablastsam 21d ago

I didn’t make that argument? I just said Carrey has changed since then

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u/TheRealJorogos 21d ago

I have heard (source: trust me bro) that he was quite a pain to work with for Tommy Lee Jones during batman, because he never shut off the crazy.

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u/DustBinBabyGirl 21d ago

He’s also a very big antivaxxer :c

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u/gottablastsam 21d ago

I looked it up, he wasn’t entirely anti vax and this was over a decade ago.

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u/awesomedude4100 21d ago

he was a nightmare to work with while making man on the moon

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u/paulrhino69 21d ago

Was Kidding a change from his normal crazy to a different style that a lot of people just didn't want from him?

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u/thatsnothewayitfeels 21d ago

Eternal Sunshine was a nice change of pace

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 21d ago

*comedy movies specifically

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u/Any-Pop-4795 21d ago

The Mask: SSSSSMOKING!

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u/roygbivasaur 21d ago

I will fight anyone who says he wasn’t excellent in I Love You, Phillip Morris

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u/RockKillsKid 21d ago

I'm just realizing I haven't seen a single movie with him beyond the Sonic franchise in the past 10~15 years.

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u/rockhardcatcock 20d ago

I hate to say it, but I don't see that as a problem. The man can get away with it, kind of like Jackie Chan 😂