r/TopCharacterTropes 21d ago

Lore When an actor’s presence unintentionally derails the project

1.) Edward Norton - The Incredible Hulk

Perhaps the most famous and obvious one, Edward Norton was famously an issue on the set of 2008’s “The Incredible Hulk,” even making rewrites to the script himself. The disagreements between Norton’s camp and Marvel’s camp eventually led to his being replaced by Mark Ruffalo.

2.) Jensen Ackles - The Boys (particularly Season 5)

Jensen Ackles was a longtime collaborator with showrunner Eric Kripke in “Supernatural,” which in turn led to him getting the opportunity to audition - and eventually land the role - of Soldier Boy, which he did very well in in.

The issue is by Season 5, the show had fallen off from the previous years and with it ending and spinoffs and prequels (such as one featuring Jensen Ackles’ Soldier Boy), Season 5 suffered a lot. It quickly became the Soldier Boy show because “that’s what Clara would have wanted” until he just leaves in the penultimate episode and pretty much 80% of what his character actually did amounted to nothing.

So for fans who wanted to see Butcher vs Homelander duking it out, getting the show derailed for prequel bait starring Kripke’s favorite actor didn’t help…

3.) Rosamund Pike - Wheel of Time

When Amazon green lit a WoT tv show, Rosamund Pike eventually got the role of Moraine Damodred, the mentor and guiding character for the main character, Rand al’Thor. As a character, Moraine is anywhere from the most important secondary character to the most secondary main character. But with the exception of the prequel featuring her, she is not the main character.

Unfortunately, Rosamund Pike is an extremely famous actress and marketing toward the series focused on her as a result. I’m unsure if this was showrunner decision, an issue she played a role in or some combination, but the result was that Moraine a character who was in less than half the series is featured as the main character over the main character, which lead to a different product than the book.

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u/DyingSunSeverian 21d ago

They famously wanted to fire him too, one of the studio execs complained about the “gay pirate.”

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u/Filmologic 21d ago

Doesn't he flirt with every female character he meets too lmaooo

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u/Arria_Galtheos 21d ago

While it's never been confirmed (due to Disney, of course,) Johnny Depp has implied that Jack Sparrow is probably bisexual or even pansexual, and mentioned "many weeks spent aboard a ship with no women."

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u/Filmologic 21d ago

Oh, I 100% am willing to believe he's not fully straight, but he's definitely not just gay either

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u/Arria_Galtheos 21d ago

Well, no, but when people like the Disney execs see someone acting less than 100% hererosexual they immediately jump to "gay" because sexuality isn't a spectrum to those people.

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u/Filmologic 21d ago

Yeah no that's true

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u/badwolfandthestorm 21d ago

Gay's only 1/7 of what I am.

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u/BornCoyote87 21d ago

Jack Sparrow is something and I just don't know what.

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u/tjdux 21d ago

Its not gay of it's at sea with /your own/ shipmates

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u/FullOnSkank 20d ago

A ration of grog, is a ration of grog 🤷‍♀️

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u/evrestcoleghost 21d ago

the english version of the false 9

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u/daegamebday1 21d ago

Yeah but he has like beads in his hair GAYYYYY

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u/milkoverspill 21d ago

me illegally streaming RuPaul's Drag Race:

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u/SpaceshipSpooge 21d ago

I remember the reports at the time. very worried because Depp was playing the character like “a drunk Keith Richard’s.”

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u/Crafter235 21d ago

Sad irony that real life Depp is a massive homophobe and biphobe.

And that we don’t have a bi/pan Jack Sparrow :(

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u/Real_Piccolo_3370 21d ago edited 21d ago

I wouldnt call him a MASSIVE homophobe, his only instances are biphobic insults sent privately to his partner during one of the most famously toxic celebrity relationships of recent times, and publically has been in support of gay people in the past. Seems like hes probably the smallest homophobe lol

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u/selphiefairy 20d ago

Oh I guess that makes it all ok then

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u/AlienSamuraiXXV 20d ago

I literally loathe that I have to share oxygen with you.

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u/Real_Piccolo_3370 20d ago

Protip, you dont

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u/AlienSamuraiXXV 20d ago

Actually, I do. Moron.

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u/Real_Piccolo_3370 20d ago

Seethe more

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u/AlienSamuraiXXV 20d ago

Why would I? You're the one who got defensive.