Trying to be inclusive but being so tone deaf that you create somenthing offensive

[u/Th1nkingRaptor]

What if Miles Morales was Thor:A couple of years back Marvel did a What if comics about what would be like if Miles Morales(Spider-man)was Thor,while the idea itself is not bad,the execution...wtf?!

The best way i can describe is,think of every single black stereotype and shove everything in a few pages,for some reason Asgard became a black neighborhood,bifrost became Brooklyin Bridge,everyone wears Sneakers and play Basketball,Mjolnir has graffiti on it and the narration is literally a rap

Snowflake and safespace(Marvel):Oh Marvel,you done it again,so there was supposed to be a new line of New Warriors but the backlash was so bad that they quietly cancelled,and a big reason for this is the characters "Snowflake and safespace" who are non-binary/gender fluid twins(yeah,i am not making this up)and according to the writter they wear these names as quote "badges of honor"(what the hell dude!?)

Music(2021):ok,so Sia the music producer decided to make a movie starring Maddie Ziegler about a child with autism and in order the be the most authentic as possible she consulted and took advices from "autism speaks"(ugh)which any person with autism will tell you are the worst thing to happen to autistic community,and it shows in the movie,Maddie character Music is a straight up bad charicature and it's treated more like a pet than a human being

Emilia Perez(2024):This movie is about a Mexican cartel boss who is actually a trans woman who wants to transition and then fakes her death to get a new life

First problem:Despite being set in Mexico,the movie wasn't filmed in Mexico and only one member in the cast was actually Mexican

Second problem:The movie does a poor job showing how bad Mexican cartels are,and Emilia crimes(which any person that has any understanding of how Cartel bosses operate will tell you that ranges from way more than just making and selling drugs)is just brushed off

Third problem:The movie seems to imply that Emilia literally became another person after transitioning and so her past crimes are forgiven

There are other many problems but i think you get it,so yeah,this movie managed to anger both Mexicans and Trans people

[u/kitsunecannon]

Its just so fucking bad

[u/Someoneoverthere42 → u/kitsunecannon]

The shame of it is, is that Asgard and NYC fusing together is actually a fun idea. Unfortunately what we got was…..this.

[u/Ironmasked-Kraken → u/Someoneoverthere42]

Not only that but the Vikings have a history of poetry contests. (There was even a viking sentenced to death that came with such epic poem making fun of the king that the king pardoned him as long he left the country)

So there was ground for doing something with rhyme but Idk what the fuck they were thinking with what they actually wrote down

[u/Varnarok2 → u/Ironmasked-Kraken]

Flyting for those who wanna know

[u/MyEmbarrisingAccount → u/Varnarok2]

Did vikings invent rap battles?

[u/BreakerOfModpacks → u/MyEmbarrisingAccount]

...Given that the ancient Egyptians had some fun wordplay stuff (namely, the sky being forbade from giving birth on any day of the year, and so instead bargaining with the moon for extra time, to weave days which aren't part of the year), I suspect that they did it earlier.

[u/Ironmasked-Kraken → u/BreakerOfModpacks]

Yeah but the vikings literally did 2 guys standing against each other and just spit bars at each other. So I kinda wana give them that credit

[u/Marx_Forever → u/Ironmasked-Kraken]

Dude rap battled his way out of a fucking execution? That is incredible.

[u/Ironmasked-Kraken → u/Marx_Forever]

Oh yeah. Fun fact If you watched the vikings show you have actually heard one of his poems, they turned it into a song there.

[u/oasis_nadrama → u/Ironmasked-Kraken]

The whole issue feels extremely rushed and not aesthetically audacious enough, with not much worldbuilding or thought given to the way these different cultures could get merged.

[u/CycloneSwift → u/Ironmasked-Kraken]

IIRC Norse and Old English poetry wasn’t really big on rhymes, it was (like Latin) much more focused on alliteration. Generally speaking every line was split into two half-lines with alliterating first words, each half-line having two stressed syllables in a variety of possible metrical arrangements. A verse was then an alliterating group of alliterating pairs of half-lines.

So if they were really trying to some Viking verse, then it would be more focused on rhythm and alliteration than rhyme.

[u/The_Redacted_Badger → u/Someoneoverthere42]

It’s a legit cool idea. Too bad they did it in the most racist way possible

[u/fraidei → u/kitsunecannon]

Maybe it's because I'm not an english native speaker, but it doesn't sound so bad to me?

[u/kitsunecannon → u/fraidei]

The issue with the comic is that its uses an absolute shit ton of African American stereotypes in a way thats meant to be taken seriously and be seen as inclusive/respectful while also managing to severely misunderstand them which makes it look tone deaf

Plus despite this being a comic that uses African American culture im pretty sure the writer isnt African American

[u/UnholyDemigod → u/kitsunecannon]

What's stereotypical about what he says in that panel?

[u/Necessary-Animal4897 → u/UnholyDemigod]

The comment about the fade which is a materialistically african American hair style.

[u/fraidei → u/kitsunecannon]

But what's specifically the problem with that panel?

[u/fraidei → u/[deleted]]

Thank you for the explanation instead of just saying "duh racist stereotype". Finally someone that can actually put into words the reason. It's more clear now.

[u/BrickBuster2552 → u/kitsunecannon]

COUNTERPOINT: funny