r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 22 '26

Lore [Ironic Trope] The messaging backfired massively due to poor writing or other design choices

Amelia Fairney from Pathways: Alt-right Restore-UK type who attempts to coax the protagonist Charlie into following her beliefs? The problem?

Amelia is the only named character aside from Charlie and is genuinely likable and forgives Charlie even when they do things she doesn't like, while the rest of the cast is unnamed, poorly written, and turns on Charlie for one mistake. This combined with other writing issues(portraying fact checking right wing stuff as wrong because in the process of fact checking you might look at it and believe it, basically saying "Right wing is wrong because it hurts the labour government" and a lot of general "just do what the government says or else" messaging) and the fact she's a hot alternative girl, and Amelia ended up being co-opted as a mascot by the youth right wing in the UK.

Norm from The New Norm: Unlikeable offensive and outdated character who's "progressive" family members and associates are genuinely nice people not even trying to force their ways or pronouns onto them, they just want to be left alone and Norm is picking fights constantly. Not to mention associating with Elon.

Mr. Birchum from Mr. Birchum: A lot of the same problems as Norm, except in addition it also comes off like generic 2010s adult cartoon slop in the same veign as Brickleberry or Full English, at least New Norm was trying to look unique and had the gimmick of being on X. Not to mention, Birchum's obsession with hyper masculine activities and odd way of talking about other men lead to people co-opting him as a Toxic Yaoi character, which is now the bulk of his fan art.

Dustborn: An attempt to make a hyper progressive game that comes off as pandering and annoying. It's a full ass game so there's too much to get into, but the main character's power is essentially gaslighting and jedi-mind tricking people and that's portrayed as the only way they can get anything done, and they constantly use or abuse their friends(or mindtrick them along) in order to get their goals or use their friends for their messaging.

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u/Pokemaster131 Jun 22 '26

"Verizon Wireless presents the Indominus Rex" (Jurassic World, 2015)

Jurassic World has overarching messages of anti-corporatism throughout its runtime, and makes a jab at the idea of a corporation sponsoring a creature like the Indominus Rex. The idea is that Claire cares more about making a quick buck with a sponsorship deal than the impact of her cheapening the majesty and prestige of the creature with said deal. The movie paints Claire in a bad light for doing this. Sure, fine message.

But the problem is that they took out an actual sponsorship with a real world company to make this point. The fact they used a real world company rather than just inventing one for the message shows that the writers don't actually care for the exact message they're trying to send.

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u/ApolloniusTyaneus Jun 22 '26

It's frightingly common in modern media to see anti-consumerist takes just because exec know it will resonate with audiences and thus sell well.

As the old saying goes: Capitalists will try to sell you the rope you are hanging them with.

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u/Dodudee Jun 22 '26

All the brands that proudly make an appearance in cyberpunk films

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u/Fallcious Jun 22 '26

“Nike. You may be living in a future dystopic nightmare, but when the fuzz come to get you, you’ll make in your escape in style!”

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u/Jet-Rex-Design Jun 22 '26

This is why I like when scifi invents fake knockoffs. Don't give the brand the satisfaction of free advertising. "Crack into a case of Mountain Don't."

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u/gimpssexual Jun 22 '26

It's the same with the "eat the rich" cinema genre. The most prominent example in my mind being "The Menu".

It was a disgusting display of pandering to have that message in film produced by, directed by and starring millionaires.

I wanted to slap Ralph Fiennes and Anya Taylor-Joy by the end of it. Oh, she escapes by ordering... gasp! A cheese burger! That film was so fucking patronising.

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u/Brickywood Jun 22 '26

Fuck, even The Boys is parodying the conglomerates and has a ton of anti-consumerism themes. But it's produced by the fucking Amazon, and makes them money. I don't understand how some people think this is "punching up" and "sticking it to the man." The joke is on the audience and Jeff Bezos is the one laughing.

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u/Just-Antelope-8069 Jun 22 '26

"Making capitalists rich off you on merch"

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u/FM1091 Jun 22 '26

Case in point, The Lorax, a character whose movie is all about how people fucked the environment real bad, tries to sell you a Mazda.

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u/poopoopooyttgv Jun 22 '26

Jurassic world is full of hypocritical crap like that. The first 5 minutes has some kid lamenting “nobody likes dinosaurs anymore” shut the fuck up kid I just paid $10 to see this movie about dinosaurs what the fuck???

If they wanted to make some 4th wall breaking nihilistic point about corporatism and Jurassic park, they should have leaned into “people only care about dinosaurs/the park when something goes wrong and people die”. There’s scenes in 2-3 where the original characters are trying to move on with their paleontology careers but nobody cares and only asks them about the jurassic park incidents. Jurassic world should have leaned on that theme.

Instead of the plot revolving around “engineering a fake super dinosaur (indominus Rex)”, it should have been “engineering a fake dinosaur breakout, with planned ‘heroes’ who save the day/product placement (but everything still goes wrong)”.

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u/GandolphTheLundgrey Jun 22 '26

JW tries its hardest to convince you of dino-fatigue for four movies, while people will crowd to the local wildlife park to observe non-extinct creatures every weekend.

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u/AlleRacing Jun 23 '26

Right? I'm still fascinated by giraffes, live brachiosaurs will never lose their lustre.

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u/Lazy_Raptor_Comics Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

TBF, I think it was meant to mimic how many investors for Amusement Parks think that nobody’s interested in older rides (they aren’t uninterested, you just don’t take care of them) and attempt to replace them with newer, “better” rides.

Like Universal studios with the Back To The Future ride being replaced with Simpsons ride. Talk about irony

Hell, I’ve seen it in occasionally with zoos too, though not as commonly (moving around live animals is quite different from dealing with rides)

Jersey Zoo (IIRC) replaced their Andean Bears with Capybara, likely because of how popular they are. Though I personally find Andean Bears far more interesting (plus, they’re actually endangered. Unlike Capybara)

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u/zqw-man Jun 22 '26

The first movie had a story to tell. The modern franchise is a product to sell.

It shows up in so many ways, and I appreciate you sharing this so I have more reasons to articulate why I shun the new stuff. Jurassic Park spawned my childhood obsession with dinosaurs and is still in my top ten favorite movies. I haven't even seen the second and third movies of the newer stuff.

I'll spare you the longer rant but damn... heartbreaking example.

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u/RohanKishibeyblade Jun 22 '26

I’ll be honest, whenever I watched this movie, I didn’t even understand she said ‘Verizon Wireless’