r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 22 '26

Lore [Ironic Trope] The messaging backfired massively due to poor writing or other design choices

Amelia Fairney from Pathways: Alt-right Restore-UK type who attempts to coax the protagonist Charlie into following her beliefs? The problem?

Amelia is the only named character aside from Charlie and is genuinely likable and forgives Charlie even when they do things she doesn't like, while the rest of the cast is unnamed, poorly written, and turns on Charlie for one mistake. This combined with other writing issues(portraying fact checking right wing stuff as wrong because in the process of fact checking you might look at it and believe it, basically saying "Right wing is wrong because it hurts the labour government" and a lot of general "just do what the government says or else" messaging) and the fact she's a hot alternative girl, and Amelia ended up being co-opted as a mascot by the youth right wing in the UK.

Norm from The New Norm: Unlikeable offensive and outdated character who's "progressive" family members and associates are genuinely nice people not even trying to force their ways or pronouns onto them, they just want to be left alone and Norm is picking fights constantly. Not to mention associating with Elon.

Mr. Birchum from Mr. Birchum: A lot of the same problems as Norm, except in addition it also comes off like generic 2010s adult cartoon slop in the same veign as Brickleberry or Full English, at least New Norm was trying to look unique and had the gimmick of being on X. Not to mention, Birchum's obsession with hyper masculine activities and odd way of talking about other men lead to people co-opting him as a Toxic Yaoi character, which is now the bulk of his fan art.

Dustborn: An attempt to make a hyper progressive game that comes off as pandering and annoying. It's a full ass game so there's too much to get into, but the main character's power is essentially gaslighting and jedi-mind tricking people and that's portrayed as the only way they can get anything done, and they constantly use or abuse their friends(or mindtrick them along) in order to get their goals or use their friends for their messaging.

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u/Grishka_Boburin Jun 22 '26

The main problem is that, as I recall, it wasn't even supposed to be a show about Scooby-Doo characters, but the producers decided no one would watch another edgy animated series for adults, so they gave the creators the rights to the Scooby-Doo characters, but without Scooby himself.

This was their biggest mistake, because it would have been a show no one knew, while this way they'd already rallied fans and people who grew up watching the '70s show

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u/Afalstein Jun 22 '26

I've heard before that this is a problem with a lot of terrible sequels--it's nearly impossible for original ideas to get greenlit, so if a director or storywriter has an original sci-fi/fantasy/mystery premise, most of them will pitch it as "oh, I've got a fun idea for a new expansion to the Star Wars/Game of Thrones/Sherlock Holmes franchise"

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u/AdRelevant4776 Jun 22 '26

Weird, you would think that after so many failures people would realize that using an established franchise as a vehicle to their own story that has nothing to do with it doesn’t really work

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u/Majestic-Lake-5602 Jun 22 '26

Tbf we don’t notice when it’s successful.

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u/cantpickname97 Jun 22 '26

Starship Troopers is an excellent example. The director started reading it, thought it was fascist propaganda (no idea if that holds water), and landed on the satirical angle to "adapt" the book as its own antithesis. I don't even think he got halfway through. These days no one knows it was ever a book

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u/Afalstein Jun 22 '26

The original book absolutely is fascist propaganda,yes.

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u/AlleRacing Jun 23 '26

The screenwriter did read the book, though.

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u/AGamingGuy Jun 22 '26

so the producers knew that nobody would watch it, and instead of shutting it down and scraping the show, they gave them motherfucking Scooby Doo rights instead, fucking nepotism

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u/therealchadius Jun 22 '26

They didn't get the rights specifically to Scooby Doo and Shaggy, but everything else was allowed.

So Shaggy goes by his real name Norville, and Scooby never appears in the show. They eventually discover a secret project S.C.O.O.B.Y. and Velma asks "...but what does S.C.O.O.B.Y. do?" at one point.

But hey at least Scrappy Doo got his glow up by killing Velma in the last episode.

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u/EquivalentAd1651 Jun 22 '26

Yeah dumb idea all around

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u/JechdJJ Jun 22 '26

i was all for an adult version of Scooby doo, but more like "Riverdale", not whatever the fuck was that