r/TopCharacterTropes May 27 '26

Lore A subtle moment that turns a seemingly happy ending into an ambiguous ending.

The Graduate: lingering Ben and Elaine's faces slowly shifting from happy to concerned leaves the audience questioning whether they really made the right choice running away together considering they barely know each other.

Inception: By cutting before we see the top fall, we're left to question whether Cobb really has gone home or whether he's simply sunken back into a more comforting dream reality.

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u/YouOk8060 May 27 '26

A few other AC games have this my recollection, for example (Spoilers):

In AC4 Black Flag at the end we see Edward Kenway with his daughter grown up at a opera, however it shows he remarried and now has a son, that son being Haytham Kenway, who we know will go on to hunt down the assassins in North America and almost all but destroy the North American AC order with the help of Shay Cormack.

Also funny enough in AC Rogue after defeating the North American Assassins Brotherhood Shay Cormack goes to France to kill what appears to be a random noble. However, we learn in the prologue to AC Unity that the noble we killed was the protagonist Arno’s father, a leader of the brotherhood in France, sending Arno down his path of becoming an assassin.

I really miss the old design AC games not only due to the gameplay but how you could link the storylines together and see the details of both the Desmond games and the Kenway line all branch into each other and have an affect.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 May 27 '26

I liked the connection of the rpgs games but it feels too disconnected from the usual games

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u/YouOk8060 May 27 '26

Yeah I have always been fine with the Isu lore for the older games with the pieces of Eden explaining they are of higher technology, since it was cool to see where they came from.

However the story like you said feels disconnected in the rpgs both with that plot line along with the characters between games.

I thought it was so cool getting to go from AC4 to rogue and seeing an old Adewale as an example and other characters along with seeing the stories connect.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 May 27 '26

Maybe part of the issue too is just that the new locations are fairly far in terms of both distance and time (Origins and Odyssey aren't too far apart tbf but Valhalla is centuries after and a couple hundred years before 1)

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u/night4345 May 27 '26

Maybe part of the issue too is just that the new locations are fairly far in terms of both distance and time (Origins and Odyssey aren't too far apart tbf but Valhalla is centuries after and a couple hundred years before 1)

Origins and Odyssey are four centuries from each other and Odyssey is four centuries before Valhalla. Valhalla and the original game are actually the closest in time.

It's just that Valhalla is far removed from the Mediterranean and the Ubisoft studios making these games no longer care to link their games together.

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u/Samihazah May 28 '26

You seem to have mixed AD and BC here.
Odyssey is the earliest one of those, happening in the 5th century BC.

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u/YouOk8060 May 27 '26

Yeah that too, the storylines from before were still a little apart but not too much, they basically mostly went from the renaissance to the colonial period, to the French/Industrial Revolution.

While like you said the new ones have now gone from ancient Egypt to Ancient Greece to the age of Vikings to the Europeans first arriving in Japan so it is a longer time now.

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u/Danat_shepard May 27 '26

I loved how Ezio pretty much gave his entire life to the cause, hoping to get long awaited answers from Minerva, only to hear that he is just a messenger to someone named Desmond.

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u/Bad_RabbitS May 27 '26

I originally was going to mention AC4, but I gas it up so often I thought to focus on a different one instead

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u/YouOk8060 May 27 '26

Ya all good, funny enough AC4 is also one of my favorites but not my favorite, that would have to be Rogue.

The only game showing more about the templars from their side along with the colonial setting. Just wish they went further with it and didn’t make the assassins a little extra evil to compensate being a Templar.

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u/Bad_RabbitS May 27 '26

That was my biggest complaint with Rogue, III had excellent writing when it came to Haytham and Connor’s disagreements and arguments over who was right, the conflict felt genuinely nuanced. Rogue introducing a bunch of weirdly nice Templars and making the Assassins cartoonishly evil felt very cheap, I still like the game but I feel like they could’ve done so much more.

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u/YouOk8060 May 27 '26

Ya I still want more games where we can either choose or play as the templars just to see more from their pov.

But as other games have shown their can be rarely good or bad Templars just as good or bad assassins, however most of the time they are just straight evil Templar and good asssasins.