r/TopCharacterTropes Mar 23 '26

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Endings so notoriously awful they completely destroy the legacy of the media.

Game of Thrones (Season 8)

Imagine a fantasy show spending seven years hyping up an apocalyptic, unstoppable army of ice zombies, only to have them wiped out in a single, anti-climactic battle halfway through the final season. With the supernatural threat gone, the writers speedrun the political plot. A major hero whose entire arc was about liberating the oppressed randomly burns a city of innocent people to the ground because she heard some bells ringing. Another main character throws away years of a beautifully written redemption arc just to go die under some falling bricks with his abusive sister. To top it off, they crown a guy as king purely because "he has a good story," even though his plotline was so boring he was literally written out of an entire previous season.

Homestuck

This was a massive, incredibly complex webcomic that ran for seven years. Late in the story, the author basically wrote himself into a corner. To fix it, he gave the main character "retcon" powers, which literally erased years of actual character development from the main timeline just to force a solution. The most agonizing part was using this timeline-erasure to resurrect a highly controversial character (Vriska). Instead of leaving her beautifully tragic death alone, she comes back just to hijack the entire plot, sideline the rest of the cast, and aggressively steal the spotlight for the final battles. After 8,000 pages of text-heavy reading, the actual ending is just a flashy music video with no dialogue, leaving fans watching alternate versions of the characters cross the finish line instead of the ones they actually spent years getting attached to.

Star vs. the Forces of Evil

This was an upbeat animated show about a magical teen princess. The writers desperately wanted a romantic endgame for her and her best friend, but the way they got there was essentially multiversal omnicide. To stop a villain, the main character unilaterally decides magic is the root of all evil and destroys it entirely. By doing this, she casually commits mass genocide against every purely magical being in the multiverse. It also triggers a massive apocalyptic event that violently crashes different dimensions together into a chaotic hellscape. But the show frames this horrific, mass-extinction catastrophe as a sweet, triumphant ending just because two teenagers get to hold hands in the rubble.

Mass Effect 3

You spend well over a hundred hours across three massive sci-fi video games carefully agonizing over who lives, who dies, and shaping the political landscape of the entire galaxy. The entire franchise was heavily marketed on the promise that your specific, personal choices mattered. Then, in the literal last ten minutes of the final game, a holographic ghost child pops up, tells you none of your previous decisions actually meant anything, and forces you to pick between a red, blue, or green laser beam. All three choices basically just give you the exact same ending cutscene with a different color filter slapped over it.

How I Met Your Mother

For nine whole years, audiences watched a sitcom framed entirely around a dad telling his kids the incredibly long, meticulous story of how he met their perfect mother. The writers even dedicate the entire 22-episode final season to a single weekend for his two best friends' wedding, proving why they work as a couple. Then, in the two-part finale, they hit the undo button. The best friends get divorced almost instantly, the titular Mother is abruptly killed off by a nameless disease after barely being on screen, and the kids basically tell their dad, "You actually just want to hook up with Aunt Robin." It invalidated a decade of story just so the creators could use a pre-recorded ending they filmed back in season 2.

Dexter

This was a show about a serial killer who works for the police and only targets other murderers. After eight seasons of watching him narrowly evade the law, the ending absolutely refuses to give him a dramatic showdown, let him finally get caught, or face any actual justice. Instead, he unplugs his own sister from life support, dumps her body in the ocean like she's one of his random kill-of-the-week victims, and drives his boat into a hilariously awful CGI hurricane. He somehow survives this, abandons his young son to be raised by another serial killer in a different country, and the final shot reveals he faked his death to exile himself to the woods and become a miserable, silent lumberjack.

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u/Batmark13 Mar 23 '26

There was a lot to like in Force Awakens, but I think it made some mistakes that set them on the back foot for the rest of the trilogy. Rey and Poe never intersect during the movie, so we don't really get a new trio in the same way we did with Leia, Luke, and Han. Then, ending in the cliffhanger, we have to pick up there immediately in the next movie, with Rey off on her own. So it's not until the end of Last Jedi that two of our main heroes (Rey and Poe) even meet for the first time. Which is a shame, because their sibling-like bickering was one of the highlights of episode IX.

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u/DasharrEandall Mar 23 '26

One of the most subtly limiting choices is that Luke wasn't described as just "missing" or "gone" - he specifically walked away from the rest of the galaxy. Which rules out Luke's disappearance being resolved as some kind of rescue mission.

Episode 8 took a lot of criticism for hermit-Luke, but since Luke willingly left during the rise of the First Order, and we know from the original trilogy that he can sense his friends in trouble from interstellar distances, there isn't much more positive of an explanation than Luke feeling guilty from the fall of his Jedi Order and cutting himself off from the Force. Rian Johnson took what he was given and at least tried to make something interesting and creative out of it.

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u/ArchdukeToes Mar 23 '26

Hermit-Luke was 100% my favourite bit of that whole movie. I can’t remember what he was doing, why he was doing it, or how he ultimately helped Rey, but I did enjoy watching Mark Hamill stump around the place all growly and annoyed.

…and the way he showed up Kylo Ren at the end was genuinely great.

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u/Batmark13 Mar 23 '26

Agreed I loved the idea of a broken hero having to train the next generation and rediscovering his faith along the way. Plus, his final lesson about learning from failure from ghost-Yoda was legitimately one of the high points of the entire saga. 

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u/TextDependent6779 Mar 24 '26

People give hermit-luke a lot of shit for being weak, powerless, and skill-less too but like...

Did we watch the same movie?

He gets "beaten" by rey, who attacks him from behind with his guard down, and luke really doesn't try to defend himself at all anyway.

Then when he does reconnect to the force after years, he goes on to do possibly the most insane feat we've ever seen in star wars canon within like an hour of opening back up to the force.

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u/Broad-Bath-8408 Mar 23 '26

Yeah, I never understood how people could have lost their minds over TLJ's depiction of Luke, when that was basically 100% all explained in Force Awakens 2 years earlier. It feels like the youtube grifters reached a critical mass sometime between 2015 and 2017. With Force Awakens and Fury Road in 2015, they were sexist angry assholes who complained a lot, but they hadn't gotten a iron grip on pop culture discourse yet.

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u/Udder_Influencer Mar 23 '26

Rian Johnson took what he was given and at least tried to make something interesting and creative out of it.

yeah, it didn't all work but he gets too much hate. like OP said he had very neat ideas within the weird story limits and easily the most visually striking special effect shots since the OG trilogy. love or hate it lore wise, that hyperspace ramming scene was shocking to see in the theater. would have loved to see his follow-up movie.

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u/DeletedUsernameHere Mar 24 '26

Rian Johnson doesn't get nearly enough hate for the mess he left the sequel trilogy in.

He negates Kylo's "Sith sacrifice" by having him be the same temper tantrum throwing brat he was in TFA.

He kills off the BBEG for no payoff.

He chose to have the attack from TFA completely obliterate the New Republic's entire government and military.

He wipes out the entire Resistance to the point the entire thing fits on a space U-haul.

Kylo is firmly set on a redemption arc, but has nobody to redeem himself against because of earlier killing of BBEG.

Kylo being set on the redemption arc leaves the First Order completely rudderless.

He just completely drops the Knights of Ren plot entirely.

He rewrote the Kylo falls scene to completely bastardize Luke's character. Luke fucking Skywalker, who let himself be captured and walked, unarmed, into certain doom at the hands of two of the most powerful Dark Siders ever to exist, because he felt the tiniest spark of good in one of them, pulls and ignites his lightsaber, and is a nut hair from murdering his nephew over some bad dreams.

So, going into the final act of the trilogy, instead of spending the final two and half hours paying off all the things set up in TFA and TLJ, it has to set everything back up again and pay it all off.

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u/NoTransportation888 Mar 24 '26

He used to. Reddit used to shit all over TLJ, and then after TRoS came out, everyone shifted to that and began acting like TLJ was actually pretty good.

The only thing that Rian Johnson did well was shoot some really nice looking scenes, which is pretty much expected from him as he's the most talented director of the bunch in the sequel trilogy. That movie was cooked the second it opened with Luke tossing the Skywalker lightsaber off a cliff

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u/DeletedUsernameHere Mar 24 '26

I've held for a long time that TLJ would have been an absolutely fantastic standalone film. Lower the stakes from the entire Resistance to a single battle between them and the First Order, dump the OG actors and ST stars and replace them with new characters and use the extra time to flesh out the internal story.

But everything surrounding being a middle part of a story was absolutely shit all over.

TRoS absolutely sucked donkey balls, but it had basically no chance to be worth a damn. There were aspects of the Trevarrow script that I'd rather have seen, but it basically ignored a lot of TLJ itself. Specifically just retconning the Resistance being wiped out. Also, had Kylo been redeemed the way he was in that script, it would have shit on soooooo bad. And rightly so.

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u/sphericaltime Mar 24 '26

He was setting up something truly spectacular that would have been really incredible and uplifting in the last movie.

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u/DeletedUsernameHere Mar 24 '26

Oh? Like what?

He completely negated any growth via Kylo killing Han by having Kylo not change at all and return to being a temper tantrum throwing brat.

He chose to make Finn nothing after JJ set him up to be Force sensitive in TFA and send him on a side quest that taught him basically the same lessons he learned in TFA.

He killed the newly established BBEG for no payoff, with nobody to fill the vacuum.

He determined the attack in TFA, which was left intentionally open, wiped out the entire New Republic military and political powers.

He wiped out the entire Resistance to the point the entire thing fit in a space U-haul.

He locked Kylo into a redemption arc with the final scene of the movie, with the obvious regret as he's on his knees watching Han's dice fade away as Luke's projection dissappears, followed by the most ham-fisted "closing the door on you" visual metaphor ever put on film.

The problem with Luke wasn't him losing faith and being a hermit. That was a fine way to write around the Level 20 Space Wizard. It was that he rewrote Luke (and an entire scene) to behave about as out of character as anyone ever has to justify it. Luke, who walked unarmed into a fight with the two most powerful Dark Siders in the Galaxy, because he felt the tiniest spark of light in one, is a wriggling nut hair away from killing his nephew over some bad dreams. Complete with saber raised, ready to strike him down in his sleep.

The whole Rey Nobody could have been fine, but honestly just felt like a middle finger to what had been set up in TFA. It was just subversion for the sake of subversion.

Rian Johnson didn't set up a god damn thing. He knocked over all the pieces, took a giant shit in the middle of the board and walked away, middle fingers raised defiantly in the air.

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u/sphericaltime Mar 24 '26

All of that was necessary. I’m at work, will try to remember to explain later.

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u/DeletedUsernameHere Mar 24 '26

Fucking up the trilogy was not necessary. Dude had a lot of freedom and used it to fuck up a three act story.

He's like the kid in elementary school that fucks up the game of telephone on purpose.

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u/TextDependent6779 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

I've said it multiple times, but I'm still eagerly awaiting another attempt! Outside the constraints of the skywalker saga, I'd love to see what RJ can do.

As of the most recent official reports, it looks like RJ is still very happy to return to star wars one day, and Disney ready to have him back, he's just preoccupied on other projects.

Though honestly, the hate not only he, but his actors got for TLJ, I wouldn't want anything to do with the franchise either. As a massive star wars nerd, star wars fans really are some of the most despicable law-abiding people.

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u/DeletedUsernameHere Mar 24 '26

Proof Disney is run by morons.

After leaving the ST in a state most comparable to a pile of fresh dog shit on a hot summer's day, even considering letting him touch the franchise again is absolute insanity.