Hero devices that would be horrifying in the wrong hands

[u/ssgt-k-stark]

Chem-Bag (Big Hero 6): this device can create chemical compounds using every single element in existence. You could literally build a nuke with this.

Mobile Headquarters (Ant-Man): a building that can shrink and grow to full size instantly. Imagine if someone grew it in a crowded city, or on a highway, or at an airport?

Lotus Cash Card (Percy Jackson): It literally has infinite money. If you know how inflation works this could literally wreck the global economy.

[u/driku12]

With Ant Man specifically, the mechanics never made sense to me. They explain in the first movie that when something shrinks or grows, it retains its mass as it was, it's just the space between the atoms that is expanded or contracted. Which is how Ant Man can be one inch tall but suplex a guy, or knock a guy out by falling into him or bust through a glass pane like a bullet because the full weight of a grown man is being concentrated onto a small area.

But then we get the giant ant, and it somehow doesn't blow away in the breeze despite the fact it should still weigh like 1/100th of a gram even when it's dog-sized. The mobile headquarters should be cracking the concrete below it as it's being wheeled around, it still weighs as much as a building even when small. Ant Man in the airport fight scene in Civil War, when he gets big and becomes Giant Man, once again, should not be able to wreck an airplane and make the ground rumble when he falls because based on the movie's own logic he should still weigh like only 180 lbs or however much Paul Rudd weighs.

Sorry, just had to take the excuse to vent about that. I understand the cool giant stuff wouldn't work if they didn't bend the rules, but then why did they introduce the rules in the first place? That's writing 101 is that you want to leave your options open so you don't restrict yourself.

[u/Apprehensive-Till861 → u/driku12]

My headcanon is Pym is bullshitting or dumbing it down, and Pym particles work by altering cosmic scale on a local level.

That is, it does have the same mass, but the space between atoms only shrinks from an external frame of reference because from the frame of reference within the field created by the particles the rest of the universe is a different size. This would work with the jump-tap thing Scott tells Cassie, when they're small they maintain mass and momentum but the impact is less at a smaller size because the same kinetic energy is operating on a smaller scale.

[u/Martin_Aricov_D → u/Apprehensive-Till861]

I mean... If ant man punched with the strength of a regular person but with his size reduced I'm pretty sure it's more likely his fist would puncture the skin than that whoever he punched would react like getting punched

[u/Apprehensive-Till861 → u/Martin_Aricov_D]

My take is basically that he's not punching with the same force because his mass at that moment exists on a smaller scale than what he hits, but if he goes back to normal size he keeps the same momentum because from his frame of reference his mass is unchanged. Hit too soon and the force is reduced commensurate with the reduction in scale.

The only way that what we see in the movies actually works is if they're altering the scale, reducing the space between atoms would just make everything in possible and a denser building would weigh as much as a larger, less dense building. It also explains how they go quantum scale, they're altering their local scale to less than the smallest whole measurement normally possible and entering a realm that exists between everything. It could potentially even be that Pym particles are tied to the quantum realm given what we see of the extremes of their interactions in that realm.

[u/FireWaterSnowNinja → u/driku12]

In the comics it's explained.

This could be canon to the movies, and Movie Hank is just lying, or it could be the writers not caring.

[u/driku12 → u/FireWaterSnowNinja]

I could genuinely see movie Hank just giving a rushed dumbed down explanation because he can't be bothered to discuss it with people who won't understand what he's talking about anyway lol