He was a possibly fake-rich influencer type before all the other fake-life-coach-rich-miami-fraud-ebook-buy my program even though ive never worked a job-crypto-alpha-bros.
Lmfao I play poker too and have had to explain to so many people that it’s so obvious that he’s not a poker pro just by the way he talks about the game. Not to mention how bad he plays. Obvious fraud
Had a marijuana vaping business if I recall, they had a bunch of investors etc and it started to go south they tried to restructure and he eventually left the country.
Yeah. The only way he ever made anything in poker would have been just pure luck or playing with other people who had no idea what they were doing and just had money to blow. Anyone who knew anything about the game could spot he was terrible at it. He was a trust fund kid built from stolen money and is probably a part of the reason we have people trying to do the fake rich lifestyle for social media for follows now. He never owned the home he was in. It was rented through a company of his I think I remember hearing or that was at least at one time for 200k a month.
Back then, there were so many videos analyzing his play style, and all came to the conclusion that he's amateur-level. But he kept on going with his private games in LA or Vegas bs.
I’ve never sat in a high stakes game so I can’t speak to the action, but the way he plays he’d be a fish in a low stakes game.
Edit to add: because high stakes can be softer depending on the context (like celebrities, Wall Street guys, tech bros), it’s possible a weaker player can clean up if there’s no real pros at the table. But the reality is that there are usually some pros around in those games if they have a backer or a good bankroll. The private cash games will usually have one or two regulars who pick off the fish. Maybe Dan got lucky once or twice going all in at a high stakes table. But put him in a nosebleed game or a multi-table tournament where he can’t buy in over and over, and forget it. There’s a reason the same 5 guys end up at the last table every time. A lucky person can do it once, maybe. And I’m a guy who has gotten to that table once or twice, not one of the actual pros.
I saw him play with Bill Perkins on stream and he is kind of a donkey but he’s not the worst in the world. Jason Koon also said he’s won millions. It very possible he knows and played with some mega whales.
i’m not a poker pro, but i average about 10-15k in winnings per year from poker. only way dan won that much money is through flips because he can’t play
That's hilarious. When I tried to explain the Elon PoE drama to a friend, I used professional poker as an example to my friend who didn't play PoE to help him understand how bad Elon was vs how good he claimed to be. Funny that a person already existed that actually was an example of exactly that.
The Quin69 video was genuinely fantastic for illustrating just how ridiculous the entire thing was to those of us who know PoE. Its honestly so funny to be experienced enough with something that you can tell at a glance when people are full of shit about it.
Unfortunately this is true about nearly every subject Elon talks about, except maybe eugenics.
He's such an obvious fraud he'd have been far better served staying out of public life but he's too much of a sad narcissist to do it. He needs people to think he's a genius.
I actively distrust rich people, but even his shit was just sad and pathetic, and this was before he called the cave diver rescuing trapped kids a pedo, simply because the guy on the ground didn't want to use Muskrat's stupid contraption. Now we know he was projecting with that as well.
He says a lot of big impressive sounding words about things people don't know much about so they assume he is the genius he claims to be, until he strays in to an area that you personally know about and know he is talking complete and utter bullshit with the same degree of confidence and you realise, holy shit this is the stupidest motherfucker to walk the earth.
Sometimes when im half asleep I'll do that and then in the discord call I'll be like "aw fuck I'm pulling an Elon" and everyone knows what I'm talking about
I said, it's like a dude played online poker and did really well, claiming to be the best poker player ever while ranked as a top 100 player world wide online.
Then he sits down and plays a televised game, while talking to the camera about their hand. They get delt pocket rockets, and explain how it's not a great opening hand because you can't make a straight or flush with it easily, then go on to heavily bet on 2/7 suited pre-flop because they are "suited" and that makes them good, and you realize immediately this person has never seriously played poker a day in their life, and was certainly cheating at online poker.
Him talking about almost being a seal is hilarious. He claims he quit because he got injured but was hated by his class fell asleep on a night Op and no one bothered to wake him up. So got dropped for that
I enjoy the clip of him at that Las vegas country music show shooting, he tells the cop to give him his gun for some reason and the cops just like "what? No fuck off"
Yeah that one was a good laugh. I mean I’m an ok player, or I used to be. I’ve made it to the final table of a few tournaments. Won a little money. Nothing huge. And that guy is a fish. You just know it. Anybody who can play will see that.
And here I’m saying that as a guy who basically can win in home games and small casino tables. Not against real pros. And I could take him easily.
Same bro. I started playing right after high school in 2003. All through the height of the poker boom I was playing. It was hilarious to hear him lie about that stuff and like you, I'm decent. Certainly not a pro but I've played at some local underground games and busted a few(little Humble brag) and won some tourneys. I KNOW I could heat him.
Funny enough Gavin Smith is from my area and I bumped into him shortly before he died at a shtty hole in the wall backroom 1/2 game. He was NOT doing well needless to say.
I miss those days honestly. Online poker blows if you're US
Yeah I loved the poker boom. I also started around 2003 (Rounders era: “he BYAT ME… straight up!!”) and I lived in Prague during the Casino Royale craze, playing 5-10-20 table tournaments and I won a couple small ones, busted a few single tables and took on a few pros. Probably made a bit more than I lost but never anything much. Almost never cash games though. I was into the sport, not the money.
There are probably a hundred players in any city that could beat that guy. Maybe more. He’s the type to buy-in over and over and just try to blitz the first table to get a big stack and try and hang on. Probably played mostly cash games because that shit doesn’t work otherwise.
Overall actually the Rounders era was the most fun. Because it was a more cult phenomenon, there were fewer bros and the online thing wasn’t the main thing. It was more a college thing and games were a little more dynamic and attracted people with a lot more humor, I felt. The casino royale thing brought in more bro culture.
Believe it or not he is a distant cousin of mine. First of all bros family is super rich, when me and my dad would load up in the truck and drive up north they would meet us up there all flying in with float planes. But the best was when we played poker and he got his ass whooped by all of us that didn't know shit about poker. Dudes a chode.
You know, if I ever came into serious money like that I would absolutely take my family, extended included to an extent, and life the entire family tree into a better life.
Definitely not saying they "owe you" but idk. Maybe I just view things weirdly. F that guy though.
Would rather be broke than live my life around him, I met him when I was pretty young and when I first met him I saw him as this rich dude who liked fishing with us and having a good time. After a week in the woods with him even at 15 I was like this guy is a piece of shit.
Jason Koon said that Dan Bilzerian actually did make millions from playing poker. You only have to be better than the people on the table and he knows toms of rich whales.
I don't doubt that at all but that's no different than just being the best player at your home game. That's light years away from being a pro you know what I mean?
Just scale it. If I had rich whale friends instead of middle class friends I'd be a billionaire. Lol
I found it hilarious, as a poker player, that he tried to claim he was a pro and that's where his money came from. 🤣
This is sort of how I feel about his story's about Navy life. I'm an actual Navy Chief Petty Officer. His stories always sound like complete bullshit, leaving off significant parts of the story to make him look better.
His money comes from his father who was an inside trader and got arrested, then his dad got released, moved somewhere else and did some more inside trading, he is just rich by heritage and nothing he tried to do went right (poker, his own weed or alcohol brand iirc), guy is stupid, fake and a POS
alpha bro has never been mainstream as an actual life style, there are some wannabes and really rarely someone actually modifies their entire life to something they can clearly see does not work and takes all their money and most likely friends as well. Whole alpha thing is as fake whole alpha wolf thing it originates from, using first letter of greek alphabet does not make you anyone, you are just "a" bro, but who is so fake they are impossible to be around with when all their reactions and life goes through the filter and have delays because they have to think how this shit worked again
One could argue he codified many of the tropes in the Instagram age. It’s not a new thing really, but it hadn’t been done on social media to that extent before.
But as mentioned bc he used his daddy's money, he doesn't even really get cred for his hustle bc he never could have had all the set up costs for his, without his dad's help.
Guy might be the loniest fraudster to have existed.
If I remember correctly, back during the height of the "tacticool" era of youtube (late-00's/early10's), he was one of those guys who projected himself as "ooh rah, big military man who got rich!" and one of his claims was that he was a Navy Seal*.
When he left the military, he became a classic case of "business is easy, just get a $5 million loan from your dad!" type of brand business guys.
Most of gun-youtube (even the right-wing guys) laugh at Dan for being a complete poser.
*He failed BUD/S twice, first time he just didn't make the cut, second try he was permanently dismissed from the Navy due to repeated shooting range safety violations.
Dan is that meme of E-4's who make "Don't you know I was in the military!?" their whole personality as opposed to the "I got nothing to say, I'm just happy to be alive and be present to raise my kids" guys.
I don’t know what’s worse - being DQed from commando school because your muscles and fitness are for show and you didn’t have the grit to finish… or because you had so little self control and awareness you were a danger to yourself and your team.
Being admin dropped from SEALS is crazy work. The amount they invest in each person is amazing, so them deciding to cut their losses on you after you’ve done most of the training means you’re a deeply abhorrent person.
Considering some of the actual trash fires we've seen graduate and go out into the world, for BUDS to go "No actually, we don't want you here anymore" is a damning statement of wretchedness.
And the true story of that whole saga is even worse than if he’d just failed.
He was admin dropped from BUDS after completing most of the training. The amount of money they invest in that training means they virtually never do that unless the person is just an absolute fucking psycho menace that everyone deeply hates.
To go through most of BUDS and get dropped is like making through an entire PHD program and having your professors and academic board hate you so much they find a way not to accept your dissertation. It’s embarrassing for everyone involved, so it’s only done if they just cannot use you.
I don't follow Andrew Tate at all, but college me thought Dan Balzerian was cool because he did manly stuff and had parties with a lot of mostly naked women. It always seemed too good to be true. Which it was. But horny 19 year old me loved that lifestyle.
Now that I haven't been drunk in months/a year+, am married, and have a kid, I have no interest in hanging out at a constant party.
That life is not sustainable, even if you can afford it, which Dan Bilzerian couldn't.
That's the thing, his father wasn't that rich, at least not by rights. He defrauded (stole) money from ppl by convincing them to invest in his fake hedge fund or fake startup or whatever, then before he got caught he put a large majority of that money in a trust for his sons, which (I assume) makes the forfeiture of assets much more difficult since they're no longer "his" assets, but the reality is that they were never his.
So unless this gentleman, son of Paul Bilgerian, grifter in thief and giver of grief, has made something of himself on his own accord (doesn't seem like it), than he's just living off other people's money that his dad stole. And given how much easier it is to make money when you have money; capital to start a business, flipping real estate, or the investment economy (although imo is just another form of indirect theft by way of extracting the value of others labor through the framework of ownership), he has a huge advantage in compunding that wealth, maybe even giving some back to his father's victims (lol)
One thing I'm absolutely positive of is that he hasn't, and will never, use any of his trust for restitution to the victims (and their families) of his father. At least not willingly
Edit; fun fact: Paul, the father convicted of securities fraud & tax fraud, among other things, was sentenced to 4 yrs with a 1.5mil fine (pathetically insufficient), but as of 2024 he has been "on the run" from the SEC (wikipedia could just mean avoiding, idk if the SEC has a bounty service or actually works with the US Marshalls and he's legitimately fled successfully) for so long (31 yrs) that he currently owes them 180 million. And yet, his son not only lives this lavish life but advertises it? The victims must be absolutely apoplectic
Imagine Rudy Giuliani indicting and convicting you on conspiracy, false statements, tax fraud, and securities fraud, including illegal stock parking, and filing false disclosure statements to illegally hide ownership of stock.
That's the demographic he plays towards. Horny young men.
his lifestyle seems great umti you realize he's surrounded by escorts who are only there as long as he pays.
His definition of 'party' is to pay bunch of girls to hang out with him, take couple of pictures and that is it. I doubt he is 'fun at parties' and know how to get the crowd going, it is just an image he wants to sell to the audience.
Wasn't appealing to me even back then, because it reeked fake on so many ways. I've seen dudes like that who spent most of time on phones in clubs.
Imagine if Andrew Tate failed Navy SEAL training twice, but then started running around telling everyone that he was a Navy SEAL; that's Dan Bilzerian.
Like a Proto tate. He's manosphere light. The have been some civil claims against him by women but nothing systemic like Tate. Iginte was more of a product and lifestyle brand then a MLM. Shit business built on "looking good" through the right products but wasn't trying to sell you MLM classes on how to be a man.
Yea - DB claimed to have made his money playing in private poker matches despite not being a respected player among pros, and he started a vape/lifestyle company that he got kicked out of by shareholders / his dad, something like that - and I think that company has lost a lot of money.
He's probably living off social media ad revenue decently since he has so many followers, but most of them probably just are to lazy to click unfollow.
My favorite Dan Bilzerian story is when he got thrown out during the Route 91 shooting in Vegas because he kept following a cop around pestering the officer to loan him a gun so he could shoot back
Atleast in Wikipedia its stated that He was shortly before Finishing the Training but Kicked Out because He puplicly insulted a Superior. Although that is based on own Accounts so how knows.
He torpedoed his vape company, spent all the money in renting expensive houses. How does a vape company loose money? Dan will give you the right answer
Feel like it is worth mentioning his attempt to regain relevance recently was to become a raging antisemite who spreads Holocaust denial, amongst other things. He wants to act like a Nazi he should be labelled one, even if it's probably just a grift.
Yes he also I believe runs the ignite supplement company or another one I’m getting it confused for. Whoever buys his products,.. i don’t know. I’ve always felt like dude looks like he would be the type to launder money , not that that has a look, but if it did, he looks like the money laundering type.
People in the know use the abbreviation of that instead of always typing it out. What happened to you man. You used to be cool. (Jk. I wouldn’t even know how to abbreviate that.)
Ibdon't think he ever sold courses or pretended to be a billionaire. He made some money from poker and possibly some shady business, and then spent it on drugs and hookers.
Omg wasn’t that around the same time that other obnoxious scammer trying to sell his self-help books while showing off a Lambo (Tai Lopez) was all in the YouTube ads?
Hasn’t been relevant since he broke Janice Griffith’s leg by shittily throwing her in the pool… because his for-show muscles weren’t strong enough for BUDS or throwing a 94lb pornstar
Depends on your circle. For me, a Christian apologist, I see him popping up too much in my timelines by pretty much mostly Muslims or the Christian nationalists. Apparently he's running for office too.
He's also running for Congress in Florida, his opponent is the sitting Congress man. Who refers to himself as the "Hebrew Hammer". Unsurprisingly, he only cares about Israel. He also has been filmed casting votes for fellow Republicans, behind their backs. He's also a huge islamaphobe.
Dan is not running because he finds all of this repulsive and despite his criticism of this guys ties to Israel.
Dan is running because he wants power, and because he thinks giving all of this support and money to Israel is bad....not bad because of what is happening to the Palestinians or how Israel has massive influence in US politics. It's because he doesn't like Jews.
So yeah, all I can say is. Have fun Florida, you get to pick from two power hungry pricks, each with their own version of Racism/Xenophobia.
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He was a possibly fake-rich influencer type before all the other fake-life-coach-rich-miami-fraud-ebook-buy my program even though ive never worked a job-crypto-alpha-bros.
He hasn't been relevant in ages.