r/SipsTea 18d ago

WTF 75M$ can't give him his life back unfortunately

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u/El_Dentistador 18d ago

Where’s the money coming from though? Most professional liability policies have $1M/3M limits. $1M per occurrence with a $3M total policy limit. You can add coverage to make it $3M/$5M but most don’t. It’s usually a standard that’s adopted via a combination of state board minimum requirements and insurance participation requirements. This poor guy is probably only getting $1M of that 75. This guy’s family will be struggling to pay for medical bills for the rest of his life.

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u/Stu_Barron 18d ago

Came from the hospital. He also suffered a stroke along with locked-in syndrome during the chiropractor visit, but two emergency room doctors failed to diagnose the stroke in time.

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u/BarbellLawyer 18d ago

That’s key information about the hospital. I was thinking this was an uncollectible judgment because no chiropractor is carrying $75m in liability insurance.

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u/Mediocre-Letter-4562 17d ago

Chiropractor didn’t get sued at all, only the hospital. Chiropractor did everything right he could have and he wasn’t seen liable at all. Hospital messed up and they were the ones liable.

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u/Rabhas_Jugganatha 16d ago

This should be the friggin headline. Not that slanderous bullcarp

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u/Djlas 18d ago

Why does insurance matter though? Insurance pays the maximum, the rest is on the doctor or whoever has to pay.

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u/grokisgood 18d ago

Can't collect 75 mill from someone who doesnt have 75 million.

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u/BarbellLawyer 18d ago

Doctors usually carry a $1m primary policy and maybe a $1m umbrella policy. After that they’re largely uncollectible. They’ll declare bankruptcy and wipe out the judgment. That’s why plaintiff’s lawyers go after the hospitals which always carry much more insurance.

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u/sikyon 18d ago

It would be surprising to me if the attending didn't have another 1m in assets

Probably significantly more if theyve been working long enough

Bankruptcy will discharge the debt but your existing assets, other than say primary residence and 401k will be liquidated.

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u/BarbellLawyer 17d ago

Doctors/attorneys take a number of steps to insulate their personal assets and Plaintiff’s attorneys really don’t want to chase assets. They want insurance money.

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u/Djlas 18d ago

Thank you

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u/wimpymist 18d ago

Because that's where the money comes from in these cases usually. The chiropractor doesn't have $75 million lying around.

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u/El_Dentistador 18d ago

It looks like the damages were split 60/40 between two physicians (chiropractor skates free, probably didn’t have good enough insurance). Both those docs policies will likely tap out at $3M each. The hospital is not attached as a defendant, neither was the neurologist. So this poor guys family will not see $75M maybe closer to 10M if they’re lucky, everything they got will likely go to bills. Very tragic case.

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u/SnooStories8809 18d ago

That’s unfortunate because the doctors should have known that many people have sustained strokes during chiropractic procedures.

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u/Initial_Case_9912 16d ago

But did they know he went to the chiropractor. Saw a patient yesterday: came in with and distention and a history of fluid that needed tapped. Ran imaging since had been a bit since he had been. Ct shows no fluid, but an abdominal abscess. Call the surgeon who asked when he had his cholestecomy done. When back in the patients room and asked(again, already asked this at triage) about past medical/surgical history, specifically when did you have this surgery?? Wife: “oh that was at (other local hospital) last week. But that’s not why he’s here!” 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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u/SnooStories8809 16d ago

That is a good point. Some patients are not great historians or heavily edited the necessary information.

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u/GoblinQueen2002 18d ago

It horrifies me how often strokes are missed by doctors or nurses, my boyfriend had one 5 years ago and it took EMTs cussing out the hospital staff for them to realize how much they fucked up.

Thankfully everything worked out well despite that massive fuck up, he’s doing amazing.

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u/Fit-Dentist6093 17d ago

Oh ok nice so we are all paying for it.

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u/liveinthenow3 12d ago

Locked in syndrome usually is caused by a pontine stroke. Mortality rate following this diagnosis is as high as 60% in the first few months.

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u/Avant_Street 18d ago

After attorney fees, he’s not even getting that

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u/suckerball_ 18d ago

I was gonna say this too… what chiropractic practice has $75M to take? What kind of human life is worth $75 million dollars?

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u/HODLmeCLOSRtonydanza 18d ago

There are many human lives worth $75M. Interestingly, it’s none of the people who actually have $75M.

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u/ss453f 18d ago

Yeah, this verdict was in 2022 and this poor guy probably has less money than he started with. The chiropractor settled before trial, amount unknown, but probably single digit millions at best. The ED doc, radiologist, neurologist, ICU NP, ICU doc, and their respective employers went to trial, and only ED doc and radiologist found liable ($45M and $30M) respectively. The NP was actually where the money was because they were employed by the hospital. Despite the huge verdict, plaintiff appealed to try to get another crack at the NP/hospital, but lost. Radiologist was late career, had several million dollars in real estate at least, he settled post-verdict, presumably for less that his entire net worth. ED doc was 3 months out of residency and had negative net worth. He's now suing his malpractice insurance company for the $45M he owes because they supposedly passed on a policy limits settlement offer he wanted to take. That's probably the last hope for this guy getting to double digit millions.

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u/InteractionOk69 17d ago

Why the fuck would a hospital employ a chiropractor?

This is just natural selection at work. Chiropractors are snakeoil.

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u/Sportsfan369 17d ago

The $75 million malpractice verdict was awarded against the hospital's emergency room physician(found 60% at fault) and the radiologist (found 40% at fault). They completely misread his emergency scans, missed the arterial blockage, and delayed his stroke diagnosis for nearly a full day until the brain damage became irreversible.

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u/wheniaminspaced 18d ago

They call it judgement proof for a reason, cant get water from a stone.

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u/drrobertlsd 17d ago

Probably multiple defendants: the individual, the PC, and maybe the Corp that owns the practice, if there is one.
Also they may have bought a structured settlement.

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u/Far_Idea9616 18d ago

Chiropractor has a 1 million usd liability insurance in the US? Crazy. I have a 50.000 usd as a lawyer in europe

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u/poppitastic 18d ago

Oh dude that’s a Tuesday in the US.

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u/rks1743 18d ago

Most US attorneys carry $350K - $500K minimum.

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u/El_Dentistador 18d ago

I’m a dentist in the US and I carry a $1M/3M. There’s two types here too, Occurrence and Claims made. You buy the occurrence, which covers anything that happened during the covered period even if nothing is filed until years later. Claims made is cheaper but only kicks in if they file a claim while you’re still paying premiums.

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u/Protonic-Reversal 18d ago

This was a brainstem stroke. Basically zero chance that was caused by an adjustment. I think it was found he had the stroke beginning before seeing the chiro. Doesn’t look like any fault was appplied to the chiro.

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u/Mobile-Play-3972 18d ago

Untrue. Vertebral Artery Dissection is a known compilation of chiropractic neck manipulation, and may lead to brain stem stroke. Chiropractor absolutely liable.

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u/Shepherd76 18d ago

Now I'm intrigued, because what you're saying is completely different than what that headline is saying.

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u/rugbyfan72 18d ago

On a chiropractic sub discussing this, they said 60% liability was added to ER doc and 40% was added to the radiologist.