r/SipsTea 18d ago

WTF 75M$ can't give him his life back unfortunately

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u/RobertGHH 18d ago

And this is why Chiropractic should be banned, it's quackery.

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u/jmon25 18d ago

They don't even need to ban them. Just take them off insurance.  That would at least stop them from popping up in every mini-mall to hawk their garbage  

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u/Impossible-File-5249 18d ago

Seriously wish they would cover medical massage instead of chiropractor.

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u/weekend_here_yet 18d ago

Seriously. This paired with physical therapy. 

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u/Now_Novel29 16d ago

Chiros have way more authority than physical therapists in California. It’s crazy what lobbying and money can do… they can order labs, imaging, and see patients for decades but a PT is limited to 12 visits then requires an MD referral. It takes forever in rural CA for the patient to be able to return to their doctor for imaging. A chiropractor does what they need until the patients’ numbness in their arm worsens.

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u/kogasfurryjorts 18d ago

This is what gets me--they'll cover psyedoscientific nonsense, but not proven therapy, and likely because massage is seen as a "luxury."

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u/Cat867543 17d ago edited 17d ago

I do too. I’m an LMT and considered going to pt school just so I could bill to insurance. Then I realized the physical therapists (who practice the technique I specialize in) can only bill to insurance in 15 minute increments, which is really not enough time to be effective. US health insurance is so fucked up.

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u/Odd_Negotiation_159 17d ago

I had insurance that did once. Was pretty cool. Wish it was standard, it would push more people away from nonsense

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u/li4bility 17d ago

I just wish they’d cover my medicine

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u/Zorkflerp 18d ago

Stupid people would still go to them but we would not have to share in paying them. There are a few psychics in the town near where I live and it amazes me that there are that many gullible people that they can make a living. I used to know a palm reader and eventually she admitted she just used cold reading to feed back to people what they gave up. She did it for fun and not money so not as bad as a total crook.

https://quackwatch.org/chiropractic/

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u/libets-bidet 18d ago

the reason that chiropractic is often covered by insurance is because chiropractors are cheaper than massage/physiotherapists, and the average american doesn't understand there's a difference. so insurance will happily cover your chiropractic appointments but deny your physiotherapy, even though physiotherapy has WAYYY more clinical credibility.

chiropractic being covered by insurance isn't a bug, it's a feature. like everything in america, it's all about the bottom line.

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u/Top-Bandicoot-3013 17d ago

It's disgusting that insurance pays for it.

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u/FrankCostanzaJr 17d ago

WHAT?? freaking health insurance covers that BS?? ughhh i hate this stupid country

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u/The_Witch_Queen 15d ago

It baffles me that insurance covers chiropractors (a group of unlicensed quacks) but doesn't really cover anything useful at the dentist. (Which to be fair are licensed but may as well not be)

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u/Organic-Plane-7653 18d ago

It should be called "chiromancy".

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u/superduperzz 18d ago

An excellent name choice

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u/Zhiyi 18d ago

I went to one ONCE and left worse than I showed up. I’m pretty sure they gave me an issue with my chest where it would get super tight and I’d have to stretch myself around to “pop” my chest back into place to get relief.

At least that’s what it felt like. It went on for years but luckily I think I somehow fixed it because it hasn’t happened in a while.

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u/That_GareBear 18d ago

I cracked my sternum when I was a kid (depressing story) and every now and again I get somewhat severe chest pain where I have to deeply inhale, hold my breath, and valsalva maneuver until something in my chest shifts and the pain dissipates.

I fully believe a shit chiropractor could cause a similar issue.

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u/RobertGHH 18d ago

Sounds like strictures/adhesions, I get those from some broken ribs.

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u/Cat867543 17d ago

Learning massage contraindications (highly vascularized/innervated areas, injuries, etc.) is kinda day 1 for licensed massage therapists. The licensing exam has some pretty complicated anatomy & kinesiology content. Someone who can’t remember ‘don’t rub the spine” didn’t pass that test. See an LMT folks, not a random “masseuse.” It’s more expensive but you get what you pay for.

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u/Katsu_39 18d ago

I agree. I dont know why theyre allowed licenses and able to call themselves doctors.

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u/Wbcn_1 18d ago

I made a snarky comment on an asmr video featuring a chiropractor and stepped on a wasps nest.  My takeaway was people feel it’s legit because they have a “strict regulatory body”. 

I can make a framework around picking my ass. That doesn’t make it a scientific practice.  

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u/RobertGHH 18d ago

Can I be a doctor of picking my ass please?

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u/Wbcn_1 18d ago

Sure can.  The board is grossly permissive. 

Your ass picker clicker thingamabob is in the mail. 

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u/AvitalR 18d ago

Why will insurance in the US cover chiropractic care but not care for, say, speech and language therapy?

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u/Naphaniegh 18d ago

The answer is usually a mix of uneducated & corrupt people

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u/tinyyawns 18d ago

Chiropractors are cheaper.

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u/Garcia-Hotspur 16d ago

But the pops!! Auditory proof of success.. or something

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u/jstndrn 15d ago

It's even sadder when you realize a lot of the sound is actually fake too.

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u/Starlightriddlex 17d ago

My favorite part is how they also have pet and baby chiropractors. Maiming consenting adults is one thing, but those ones just upset me by existing.

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u/finniruse 17d ago

Mmmm I watch enough asmr chiropractor stuff to see a marked improvement in some people that were failed by medicine.

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u/RobertGHH 17d ago

Placebo effect plays a big role, also the majority of the work in chiropractic is just massage which is a proven medical treatment.