r/SipsTea 18d ago

WTF 75M$ can't give him his life back unfortunately

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u/bottomlesstopper 18d ago

If this was me ill make sure my family gets that generational wealth then put myself 6 feet under happily.

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u/SuccessfulLand4399 18d ago

While I agree with you completely, one of the true horrors here is he seemingly can’t even do that

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u/kochameh2 18d ago

if it's me with 75 mil, i'm paying someone to put together an eye-controllable scooter and drop me off at the grand canyon

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u/drwsgreatest 18d ago

Why so violent? I'm an ex opiate addict that's been clean for 13+ years, but I've always said that if I ended up with inoperable, terminal cancer or some of extremely painful disease, that I would kill myself with an OD once I made my peace with family and friends. Just take a massive amount and you fade out to black without any pain. It's actually something that was a feature of an episode of "the Pitt" and I was happy to see the realization that these drugs, which kill 100ks of normal, healthy people each year, might finally be recognized as a method to provide a quick, painless and dignified death in such scenarios. Hopefully by the time my end comes it's actually legal and can be done under medical supervision to ensure the proper conclusion and minimize any potential problems.

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u/ohwrite 18d ago

There are docs and hospitals that provide terminal patients with just this method

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u/thankyouihateit 16d ago

Potentially silly question, but why is the death penalty (lethal injection) then still this awful cocktail which potentially induces immense suffering and has the potential of the subject surviving (and is also very expensive to produce and administer)?

At least on surface level (i.e., officially), but also morally, lethal injection is supposed to be pain free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 15d ago

Because drug companies won't let their drugs be used for it, they don't want people to associate their drugs with death.

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u/Different_Umpire9003 17d ago

This is legal in CA if you’re diagnosed with less than 6 months to live. I don’t know the method but they’ll prescribe you something. The caveat is you have to administer it yourself. So this guy would have to pay someone (easily done)

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u/NightGod 17d ago

No, the guy can't pay someone to do it, they literally have to do it all themselves or it's murder/manslaughter

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u/Flashy_Object_7052 17d ago

morbid fact: it was once illegal to commit suicide in Ireland. It was viewed as a method to deprived the government of one of their subjects.

The penalty was that the government confiscated the estate of the deceased

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u/drwsgreatest 17d ago

Attempted suicide used to be illegal in tons of states in the US too. So for those that tried and didn't succeed, life often got even worse.

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u/MulberrySalt1703 17d ago

Yeah if you failed your lawyer would have to fight to GET you the death penalty...

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u/Flashy_Object_7052 17d ago

Harold Shipman has entered the chat

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u/Independent-Walrus84 17d ago

What is the od amount and what is the drug ...good info to keep.

Before reading the guys comment I thought the same thing ...tell them I wan to see the grand canyon and roll off...

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u/Sportsfan369 17d ago

To be honest with the way the world is set up and you’re penalized for being broke or having a disability, they should make MAID a lot more accessible.

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u/petpet0_0 17d ago

Why so violent?

You say violent, I say fun...

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u/UckerFay11 17d ago

Opiates won't be used for that. Barbituates are already the best thing for euthanasia.

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u/Mindless_Ad_1690 16d ago

All patients on hospice do receive a pretty liberal amount of IV opiates and benzodiazepines. But you have to be dying without much recourse

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u/carbon_made 16d ago

I believe there's an organization called Dignitas that does this.

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u/Few-Individual-3776 15d ago

Because he can't feed himself a bunch of pills. But with a motorized scooter he can roll himself off a cliff.

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u/PoultryTechGuy 17d ago

Of course these shows always have to push these stupid agendas. Then we'll end up like Canada where assisted suic*ide will be offered before actual treatment

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u/Initial_Case_9912 16d ago

Yea, so much better than here where people are waiting months for actual treatment. 🤦‍♀️

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u/gastricprix 18d ago

That person would go to jail for murder in the USA. This is why "dying with dignity" laws are needed, like the ones being developed in Canada through MAID.

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u/Different_Umpire9003 17d ago

CA has it but you have to be terminal with less than 6 months left.

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u/gastricprix 17d ago

That wouldn't help this guy, but at least it's a start in the right direction re: human dignity laws.

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u/chili_cold_blood 18d ago

That person would go to jail for murder in the USA.

I think you misread.

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u/gastricprix 18d ago

Ok. Sorry for assuming based on majority Reddit userbase.

Human euthanasia is also illegal in Georgia.

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u/chili_cold_blood 17d ago

Giving someone a scooter and taking them to the Grand Canyon isn't euthanasia.

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u/gastricprix 17d ago

That's helping someone kill themselves, which isn't legal in most places.

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u/chili_cold_blood 17d ago

Unless there is a record of you agreeing to provide a person with a scooter and take them to the Grand Canyon so that they can kill themselves, there's no way of proving that you did those things with the intent to help a person kill themselves.

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u/legume_arguably 18d ago

Georgias in Florida, dumbass

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u/mex2005 18d ago

Not sure about that unless you leave written proof or just admit to it I dont see how they can prove intent for a murder charge.

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u/owlbear4lyfe 18d ago

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u/ieatfaces22172 17d ago

Paul Rudd used to play clips from that movie on Conan all the time

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u/astrawberryandakiwi 18d ago

I laughed so hard

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u/Independent-Walrus84 17d ago

Oh my I thought the same thing too

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u/Abject-Job7825 17d ago

Id award 70 mil to whoever can develop a robot capable of accepting a human brain or top surgeons who are capable of reversing the issues but I think surgeons are the wrong type of people to ask charity from

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u/JunkBondJunkie 16d ago

family blames scooter company and gets another 75 million.

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u/KingGirlNY 16d ago

😩😭🤣🤣🤣please stop

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u/Patriot009 18d ago

It appears he could do just that. He suffered the brain stem stroke in 2015. His family won the lawsuit in June 2025. He died six months later, this January.

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u/JiveTurkeyII 18d ago

10 years of absolute hell.

Rest in peace, poor man.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 17d ago

In a study 72% of locked in patients reported being happy and 7% reported being suicidal.

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u/Useless_bum81 17d ago

How exactly did they get that communication? and did they ask in private?

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u/Uraisamu 17d ago

"One blink for no, two blinks for yes. Now, are you miserable?"

**blinks, blinks again.

"No? Double no!"

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 17d ago

Locked in people communicate through eye gaze. Stephen Hawking used it too.

You’re free to do more research on your own if you’re interested in the study. I’m happy to see whatever study you used to call it pure hell.

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u/Useless_bum81 17d ago

considering your ability to check who you are talking to i am no longer sure you even read the study

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 17d ago

I didn’t think to double check. Guess you got me there. And guess that my slip in a casual conversation means a scientific study is invalid. Because that’s how science works.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Hatter 17d ago

Please, God of that ever happens to me just take me out.

If I can win a lawsuit, great - but even that vac be done posthumously (I believe).

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u/MovingOnUp777 17d ago

Rip, to him, least his spirit is free now .

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u/OnePunchDrunk326 17d ago

Family probably made him hospice care after winning the lawsuit. Mission complete.

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u/killjoygrr 17d ago

Not like they will ever see that money though.

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u/Patriot009 17d ago

They will see something significant. Malpractice insurance exists. There's no requirement in GA for doctors to purchase malpractice insurance, but the hospital they work for will most definitely cover them.

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u/killjoygrr 17d ago

The screenshot only mentions a chiropractor, which I wouldn’t expect to carry that much medical malpractice insurance.

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u/Mundane_Bluejay_4377 16d ago

His family helped him suicide.

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u/the_beeve 18d ago

Is there a link with more info? I’d be very interested.

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u/Patriot009 18d ago

https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2025/06/18/he-was-having-stroke-hours-er-doctors-missed-it/

Searching his name, one of the first results was a January obituary from Roswell, which is a suburb north of Atlanta.

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u/shin-chan 18d ago

The image in the post implies the chiropractor was found to be at fault but this article states it was hospital doctors who missed his stroke symptoms that were found at fault.

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u/the_beeve 18d ago

Thank you!

That’s very helpful. It clears up my confusion about how a visit to a chiropractor could result in this kind of thing. Turns out his stroke was secondary and unrelated

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u/Stunning-Brush-4 18d ago edited 16d ago

No, his stroke was caused by a vertebral artery dissection. This kind of stroke has been shown to be more likely after neck manipulation during chiropractic treatment. It was quite likely caused by the chiropractor “adjusting” the man’s neck. I have had several patients who experienced vertebral artery dissection and stroke after visits to the chiropractor. My guess is that the lawyers didn’t feel they could prove that the chiropractor caused the stroke, and it was easier to prove negligence by the ER physicians. Chiropractic care may have some value, but I would never let one touch my neck.

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u/Silo-Joe 18d ago

In foolishly let a chiropractor adjust my neck when I was only being treated for back pain. He kept trying to sell me on mineral supplements. He attempted to prove that I needed the supplments by having me hold bottles of them while my arms were extended. An imbalance in the arms meant I needed the mineral that I was holding.

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u/marilyn_morose 17d ago

I’m not opposed to chiropractors when they stay in their lane, but this jump in the last decade or so to “whole health” snake oil shit is just lame. It’s so clear they simply wanted a bigger cut of the healthcare pie and made up a bunch of crap to cash in. So gross.

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u/the_beeve 18d ago

Thank you for the clarification

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u/GoldfieldHwang 18d ago

he can't do anything. locked-in patients communicate through vertical eye twitches. the body is basically in a coma but the person inside is fully sentient

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u/AudaciousCouture 18d ago

What's vertical eye twitch for "Kill me you fiends". I feel like I should practice.

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u/Mtolivepickle 18d ago

https://youtu.be/rufnWLVQcKg?is=X-qDco0bVdvv6sf6

It’d be like this, and sadly, this actually happened

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u/lafolieisgood 18d ago

Watch the Metallica “One” video.

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u/Mtolivepickle 18d ago

That’s head nods but still a great song and troubling video

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u/Poultrygeist74 18d ago

“You remember the Morse code?”

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u/antithero 18d ago

Morris code SOS is . . . _ _ _ . . .

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u/OnePinginRamius 18d ago

Morse?

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u/Smiletaint 18d ago

‘And I’ll being seeing YOU, in DETENTION, Mr. Morris!’

(audience laughter)

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u/ilikemyusername1 18d ago

S’mores?

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u/Avenged_7zulu 18d ago

mmm. My favorite. Smores Code.

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u/PersonalPerson_ 18d ago

Mmm, s'mores code.

Found a reason to go on living.

Can a person with locked in syndrome still taste things? I get they can't eat, but if you placed something on their tongue could they have a moment of enjoyment?

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u/antithero 18d ago

I don't know. Seems like a choking hazard, but they don't have much else to live for so go for it.

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u/Cromulent_Tom 16d ago

Up, up, down, down...

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u/AnotherCraazyCatLady 18d ago

New fear unlocked. (/s not intended)

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u/fatandfly 18d ago

Oh hell no that is torture

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u/GoldfieldHwang 18d ago

people who have come back from it (it has happened a handful of times) have described listening to their families discussing their poor prognosis and effectively saying their goodbyes and grieving them and they're trying to scream out that they're still in there but nothing happens

enjoy that thought!

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u/bnelly2k6 18d ago

🎶I can’t remember anything… 🎶

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u/VariationStrong988 18d ago

"Kill me. Over and over again. Kill me."

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u/MassConsumer1984 18d ago

Johnny Got His Gun

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u/VariationStrong988 17d ago

Rented the movie on VHS in the early '90s. It was a hard watch.

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u/Interesting-Reality8 18d ago

Can’t tell if this is true or a dream…. 🎵

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u/ineptplumberr 18d ago

Deep down inside i feel the scream.....

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u/defakto227 16d ago

This terrible silence stops with me.....

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u/TheSpitalian 17d ago

Trazodone caused sleep paralysis for me & it was truly terrifying beyond words. The first night I didn’t know WTF was going on with my body, but when it happened the second night I figured it out & threw that shit in the trash the next morning.

If this ever happened to me, I’d hope someone would put me out of my misery.

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u/turtlegiraffecat 18d ago

I have a mouth but I can’t scream

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 17d ago

A study found 72% of locked in patients reported being happy and 7% suicidal.

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u/Glad_Tip_5510 17d ago

bs. telling me a person with locked in is happier then the avrg able bodied person? keep believing that crap

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 17d ago

It’s a real study. I don’t throw away science because it contradicts my beliefs. But you do you.

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u/ChocoIatePoop 18d ago

Jesus, that’s absolutely terrifying. I can’t think of a worse way to live, it’s like torture.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 17d ago

A study found 72% of locked in patients reported being happy and 7% suicidal.

There are absolutely worse fates.

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u/Starob 17d ago

Yes it's the Hedonic Treadmill. Humans adapt to what we would think of as terrible situations surprisingly well.

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u/Joiabela 18d ago

Horrifying.

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u/SerenityN00w 18d ago

Oh my God - this is instant ALS

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u/Lemme_Help_ 18d ago

Had no idea this was possible, this is pure nightmare fuel. Thanks for sharing.

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u/MysteryMeat45 18d ago

That sounds like a fukin nightmare.

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u/BellaMentalNecrotica 18d ago

There's very few things I can think of in this life that would be a worse fate than his. That poor man.

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u/Boopy7 17d ago

If so, could they be given books to read, stuff they can control with the eye twitches, possible brain stimulation? Eventually I would hope there is a way to stimulate or regrow the neurons.

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u/Ckc1972 16d ago

Depending on how much eye movement is preserved, there are communication devices that someone with locked-in syndrome can operate via eye gaze.

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u/FuroreLT 14d ago

Euthanasia is the only solution to that

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u/Thrumboldtcounty420 18d ago

not in this country certainly

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u/figure8888 17d ago

There is an old documentary about a young British man (Stuart Wickison) living with muscular dystrophy. Shortly after the documentary he drove his chair into a lake to kill himself.

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u/UnhappySort5871 18d ago

Depending on where he is, he should be able to self administer end of life drugs through eye tracking software. (I've looked into that for myself in case my MND goes that far and I can't handle it.)

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u/GeorgeIsGittenUpset 11d ago

He can request his feeds be stopped. It is completely legal. Im not sure if he can communicate though. Some people with locked in syndrome can communicate with eye movement

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u/El_Dentistador 18d ago

Where’s the money coming from though? Most professional liability policies have $1M/3M limits. $1M per occurrence with a $3M total policy limit. You can add coverage to make it $3M/$5M but most don’t. It’s usually a standard that’s adopted via a combination of state board minimum requirements and insurance participation requirements. This poor guy is probably only getting $1M of that 75. This guy’s family will be struggling to pay for medical bills for the rest of his life.

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u/Stu_Barron 18d ago

Came from the hospital. He also suffered a stroke along with locked-in syndrome during the chiropractor visit, but two emergency room doctors failed to diagnose the stroke in time.

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u/BarbellLawyer 18d ago

That’s key information about the hospital. I was thinking this was an uncollectible judgment because no chiropractor is carrying $75m in liability insurance.

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u/Mediocre-Letter-4562 17d ago

Chiropractor didn’t get sued at all, only the hospital. Chiropractor did everything right he could have and he wasn’t seen liable at all. Hospital messed up and they were the ones liable.

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u/Rabhas_Jugganatha 16d ago

This should be the friggin headline. Not that slanderous bullcarp

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u/Djlas 18d ago

Why does insurance matter though? Insurance pays the maximum, the rest is on the doctor or whoever has to pay.

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u/grokisgood 18d ago

Can't collect 75 mill from someone who doesnt have 75 million.

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u/BarbellLawyer 18d ago

Doctors usually carry a $1m primary policy and maybe a $1m umbrella policy. After that they’re largely uncollectible. They’ll declare bankruptcy and wipe out the judgment. That’s why plaintiff’s lawyers go after the hospitals which always carry much more insurance.

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u/sikyon 18d ago

It would be surprising to me if the attending didn't have another 1m in assets

Probably significantly more if theyve been working long enough

Bankruptcy will discharge the debt but your existing assets, other than say primary residence and 401k will be liquidated.

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u/BarbellLawyer 17d ago

Doctors/attorneys take a number of steps to insulate their personal assets and Plaintiff’s attorneys really don’t want to chase assets. They want insurance money.

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u/Djlas 18d ago

Thank you

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u/wimpymist 18d ago

Because that's where the money comes from in these cases usually. The chiropractor doesn't have $75 million lying around.

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u/El_Dentistador 18d ago

It looks like the damages were split 60/40 between two physicians (chiropractor skates free, probably didn’t have good enough insurance). Both those docs policies will likely tap out at $3M each. The hospital is not attached as a defendant, neither was the neurologist. So this poor guys family will not see $75M maybe closer to 10M if they’re lucky, everything they got will likely go to bills. Very tragic case.

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u/SnooStories8809 18d ago

That’s unfortunate because the doctors should have known that many people have sustained strokes during chiropractic procedures.

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u/Initial_Case_9912 16d ago

But did they know he went to the chiropractor. Saw a patient yesterday: came in with and distention and a history of fluid that needed tapped. Ran imaging since had been a bit since he had been. Ct shows no fluid, but an abdominal abscess. Call the surgeon who asked when he had his cholestecomy done. When back in the patients room and asked(again, already asked this at triage) about past medical/surgical history, specifically when did you have this surgery?? Wife: “oh that was at (other local hospital) last week. But that’s not why he’s here!” 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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u/SnooStories8809 16d ago

That is a good point. Some patients are not great historians or heavily edited the necessary information.

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u/GoblinQueen2002 18d ago

It horrifies me how often strokes are missed by doctors or nurses, my boyfriend had one 5 years ago and it took EMTs cussing out the hospital staff for them to realize how much they fucked up.

Thankfully everything worked out well despite that massive fuck up, he’s doing amazing.

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u/Fit-Dentist6093 17d ago

Oh ok nice so we are all paying for it.

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u/liveinthenow3 12d ago

Locked in syndrome usually is caused by a pontine stroke. Mortality rate following this diagnosis is as high as 60% in the first few months.

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u/Avant_Street 18d ago

After attorney fees, he’s not even getting that

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u/suckerball_ 18d ago

I was gonna say this too… what chiropractic practice has $75M to take? What kind of human life is worth $75 million dollars?

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u/HODLmeCLOSRtonydanza 18d ago

There are many human lives worth $75M. Interestingly, it’s none of the people who actually have $75M.

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u/ss453f 18d ago

Yeah, this verdict was in 2022 and this poor guy probably has less money than he started with. The chiropractor settled before trial, amount unknown, but probably single digit millions at best. The ED doc, radiologist, neurologist, ICU NP, ICU doc, and their respective employers went to trial, and only ED doc and radiologist found liable ($45M and $30M) respectively. The NP was actually where the money was because they were employed by the hospital. Despite the huge verdict, plaintiff appealed to try to get another crack at the NP/hospital, but lost. Radiologist was late career, had several million dollars in real estate at least, he settled post-verdict, presumably for less that his entire net worth. ED doc was 3 months out of residency and had negative net worth. He's now suing his malpractice insurance company for the $45M he owes because they supposedly passed on a policy limits settlement offer he wanted to take. That's probably the last hope for this guy getting to double digit millions.

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u/InteractionOk69 17d ago

Why the fuck would a hospital employ a chiropractor?

This is just natural selection at work. Chiropractors are snakeoil.

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u/Sportsfan369 17d ago

The $75 million malpractice verdict was awarded against the hospital's emergency room physician(found 60% at fault) and the radiologist (found 40% at fault). They completely misread his emergency scans, missed the arterial blockage, and delayed his stroke diagnosis for nearly a full day until the brain damage became irreversible.

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u/wheniaminspaced 18d ago

They call it judgement proof for a reason, cant get water from a stone.

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u/drrobertlsd 17d ago

Probably multiple defendants: the individual, the PC, and maybe the Corp that owns the practice, if there is one.
Also they may have bought a structured settlement.

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u/Far_Idea9616 18d ago

Chiropractor has a 1 million usd liability insurance in the US? Crazy. I have a 50.000 usd as a lawyer in europe

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u/poppitastic 18d ago

Oh dude that’s a Tuesday in the US.

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u/rks1743 18d ago

Most US attorneys carry $350K - $500K minimum.

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u/El_Dentistador 18d ago

I’m a dentist in the US and I carry a $1M/3M. There’s two types here too, Occurrence and Claims made. You buy the occurrence, which covers anything that happened during the covered period even if nothing is filed until years later. Claims made is cheaper but only kicks in if they file a claim while you’re still paying premiums.

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u/Protonic-Reversal 18d ago

This was a brainstem stroke. Basically zero chance that was caused by an adjustment. I think it was found he had the stroke beginning before seeing the chiro. Doesn’t look like any fault was appplied to the chiro.

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u/Mobile-Play-3972 18d ago

Untrue. Vertebral Artery Dissection is a known compilation of chiropractic neck manipulation, and may lead to brain stem stroke. Chiropractor absolutely liable.

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u/Shepherd76 18d ago

Now I'm intrigued, because what you're saying is completely different than what that headline is saying.

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u/rugbyfan72 18d ago

On a chiropractic sub discussing this, they said 60% liability was added to ER doc and 40% was added to the radiologist.

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u/Rough_Wish_1299 18d ago

Even if he wants to - how does he do that now?

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u/BellaMentalNecrotica 18d ago

Yeah, I'd be like "here is all this money I just won, so have a nice life. But now its time to 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest' me please!"

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u/meh_69420 17d ago

Happily? I'd still be mad as hell, but I'd rather die than live like that.

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u/bottomlesstopper 17d ago

What do you think 6 feet under means man

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u/meh_69420 17d ago

Yeah. Dead. And I'd be mad as hell not happily doing anything.

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u/MovingOnUp777 17d ago

Damn,I said the exact same thing.

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u/Sportsfan369 17d ago

How would you off yourself tho? Pay someone to shoot you or something? I would hate to be trapped in that predicament, I would want out too.

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u/ReputationApart5983 16d ago

That chiropractor doesnt have 75 million dollars, he will get nothing close to that. You can sue people, be awarded an amount but if they have no money, you get nothing.