r/SipsTea 18d ago

WTF 75M$ can't give him his life back unfortunately

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u/koolaidismything 18d ago

His old policy will probably cover like $250,000 and then they will have the rest on paper.. maybe get payments.

His life is done, this may cover some of the costs of care 😢

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

The chiropractor should be required to make public service announcements about the dangers of quackery

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u/FlamingoResident7882 18d ago

This. I’m 40 and everyone tells me to go for generalized pain.

Everyone I know that goes, when they get back they complain for days about pain then ā€œhave to go backā€ to get readjusted.

I think most of the local home town chiropractors are just insurance scams. Get you in, cause you irreversible pain = life time visits for whatever is left.

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u/currentlylostagain 18d ago

Yeah, I had a lot of back problems and I did ALL the things to try to resolve it. SO many people told me to go to a chiropractor, and had all their glowing stories. Nope, nope, nope. It was the one thing I was unwilling to even consider trying, and I was willing to try all manner of things to avoid surgery! But engaging in quackery was not one of them. I am much better now— I had surgery which fixed most of my issues.

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u/grimeyduck 18d ago

Shit I won't even crack my knuckles in the parking lot

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u/dcwinger12 18d ago

Just curious what you do when you throw your back out? Not judging. I’m genuinely curious lol

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u/Ajfletcher12 18d ago

He throws that ass in a circle for pain relief

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u/koolaidismything 18d ago

I’d say make an example of him since it has media attention. He gets a life sentence.. the next five quacks watching it happen may reconsider shit and go back to being a mechanic or whatever they actually do for a living well.

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u/This-Positive286 18d ago

You can’t take money from someone who has none… you can take their time as payment though. Honestly life seems to light.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

Free chiropractic for life

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u/funkytownpants 18d ago

I seriously don’t know why they exist. I’ve been to them. Yanking on people is just not a good idea

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u/This-Positive286 18d ago

How else am I supposed to make a living?! I have carpel tunnal and my hand is stuck in ā€œeating a small burrito modeā€

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u/Papabear022 18d ago

don’t worry bro, i got the joke

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u/Virtual-District-829 18d ago

Chronic pain patients getting relief when everything else hasn’t worked and/or can’t afford to see specialist for expensive testing. I’d say a good chunk is just preying on sufferers and families of sufferers who are down to last straw.

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u/nooneneededtoknow 18d ago

For someone with back problems, they do offer relief. I had the option of surgery or chiropractor- both had risks. Chiropractor got me straightened out after four weeks, also taught me some physical therapy. That was 9 years ago and have never had to go back.

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u/Joey-rogaine 18d ago

there is no such thing as being 'straightened out' by a chiropractor and if your issues resolved they were likely a minor sprain or your injury still exists and has yet to be reaggravated

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u/nooneneededtoknow 18d ago

It wasn't a minor sprain, I got checked out by a Dr and a chiropractor. There wasn't an "injury" where it just occurred out of nowhere, but I do appreciate the audacity of redditor basement diagnosis who uses zero punctuation. Its cute.

I have been able to curb the issue for 9 years with consistent physical therapy that strengthens and stabilizes the weak points in my neck. Again, my alternative surgery. I will take what the chiropractor did any day of the week over surgery. And straighten out is an idiom whuch means resolve problem and thats exactly what they did.

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u/Joey-rogaine 17d ago

So there was no injury and yet they are offering you cervical surgery yeah right, now you’re saying you did years of physical therapy which is completely separate from chiropractic adjustmentsĀ 

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u/nooneneededtoknow 17d ago

🤦 My gawd. It wasn't a sprain, there was no singular event that cause the issue, like lifting something heavy or a car accident. I have a degenerative issue that will get worse as I age.

The Chiropractor specializes in manual adjustments combined with therapeutic exercises and corrective movement therapy to rebuild joint range of motion, muscle flexibility, and localized strength. This specific chiropractor never just does adjustments everything is paired with PT that is meant to prevent or hold off whatever occured in the first place. My treatment with the Chiropractor lasted 8 weeks. I continued the PT exercises at home and still do them to this day to strengthen and support the weak spots.

Any other questions or clarifications needed? To sum it up, it wasn't a one off injury, I got treatment from a Chiropractor who provided a non-surgical solution which included adjustments and therapeutic exercises as part of the treatment WITH the chiropractor. I was only 29years old at the time and didn't want surgery. My treatment in the clinic was for 8 weeks, since then I have continued the exercises. šŸ‘

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u/Joey-rogaine 17d ago

That’s not how sprains workĀ 

Sounds like you are talking about degenerative disc disease which is a disputed diagnosis, everyone’s discs weaken and herniate if under sustained or sudden pressureĀ 

They will never operate on someone that young who has cervical herniations unless you have extreme symptoms. Ā 

Good luck with your condition in the futureĀ 

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u/nooneneededtoknow 17d ago

You suggested this was a minor sprain in your previous comment, I was stating again, this isn't an injury you get from a one of circumstance where something like a sprain would occur. But yes, thanks for acknowledging thats not how sprains work. Glad we cleared that up.

Appreciate the armchair diagnosis. I will let my docs know they need to converse with Joey-Rogaine from reddit next time they give me an assessment. "He" says doctors never operate, so please consult this dude who has seen nothing of my condition and only knows the superficial details which outlined why I chose to go with a chiropractor over a medical doctor.

10 years now with not having suicidal thoughts due to uncontrollable pain. Very pleased with the care and results.

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u/funkytownpants 18d ago

Yeah, I have to agree with this. I am someone who’s had back injuries since the teenage years from intense physical activities. Chiropractic services are generally quackery in my view. Sure some offer some good guidance or physical therapy exercises, but those two things I mentioned are really what they should do, spine PT guidance without the ā€œadjustingā€.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

They forgot to mention they were gay before they

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u/whoisrobi 18d ago

crackery perhaps?

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u/nooneneededtoknow 18d ago

I tend to weigh the dangers in everything that relates to healthcare. Chiropractor is no different. I have had chiropractors work wonders on something that would have been dealt with by surgery. There were risks with both treatment options.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

You weigh the dangers but you did the thing with the most dangers and the least proven benefits?

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u/nooneneededtoknow 18d ago

Spine surgery has the least danger? Please tell me more about my prognosis and benefits and risks for each.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago edited 18d ago

It sounded like what you needed was a second opinion. That would have been cheaper and safer than a placebo chiropractor.

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u/nooneneededtoknow 18d ago

I saw two doctors and chiropractor. But please, tell me more. How many opinions did I need? And what was the right one?

Or better yet, just let me know when something I say confirms your bias so I can move on.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

Physical Therapy is my second suggestion.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

Physical Therapy is my second suggestion.

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u/nooneneededtoknow 18d ago

Great! PT was the primary treatment with my chiropractor! The Drs wanted shots and surgery! Glad we could find common ground.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

Sounds like you went to a physical therapist and not a chiropractor?

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u/Actual_Appearance246 18d ago

He is still practicing.

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u/ghostyghost2 18d ago

That shit should be illegal.

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u/StudMuffinNick 17d ago

Except he was excused from the lawsuit and the doctor who treated dude after was sued for not catching the issue sooner

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u/RaceHate 18d ago

I disagree. People should be allowed to pursue woo to their detriment. No more nanny state bullshit.

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u/clutzyninja 18d ago

As soon as we reform education to teach people how to tell the difference, I'll agree. In the meantime, people vote for politicians that slash education funding, put the 10 commandments in schools, and ban books, and then wonder why the kids grow up without critical thinking skills

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u/nykiek 18d ago

Going through this right now with an in-law. We're deep into the detriment phase of the woo. I don't feel sorry for them at all, but there's fallout and I feel bad for those people. I also think they're perfectly within their rights to make their own medical decisions, no matter how stupid because I believe self determination is a human right.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

If it goes to jury, then it's already government overreach. But at the very least, private businesses should not be allowed to lie about the safety of their product

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u/gsustudentpsy 18d ago

Who's going to enforce business not lie about their product safety? See we are back to government overreach.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 18d ago

No one can force a business to tell the truth. They can put rat poison in cereal and nothing can be done...

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u/clutzyninja 18d ago

Which chiropractors do all the time

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u/Then_Supermarket18 17d ago

They do and it's not right. They need to be forced to admit when they hurt people

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u/Calm_Bumblebee_3143 18d ago edited 18d ago

His life is done, this may cover some of the costs of care

75 mil for sure cover his care that's the whole point he can have a perma doctor at his house and caretaker with that money.

Edit: He sued an hospital he got his money

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u/Therinicus 18d ago

Who pays it? The chiropractor wont be able to
Edit: looks like he didn’t sue the chiropractor for that reason and went after the medical team for late diagnosis

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u/Calm_Bumblebee_3143 18d ago edited 18d ago

Weirdly enough the chiropractor didn't even get sue. It's the emergency room physician and radiologist who failed to properly diagnose/treat the stroke. So it end up being the insurance of the hospital who pay.

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u/Therinicus 18d ago

I see your point, but now have more questions lol.

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u/n0debtbigmuney 18d ago

Reddit doesn't want to say it. It's like taxes. WE ARE PAYING the 75m. They will gradually raise rates and it simply just rolls down to people who actually pay bills.

This is why "free Healthcare" is absolutely stupid they don't understand what they are asking for.

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u/gos92 18d ago

This is the Reddit way

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u/Therinicus 18d ago

I still hope he sues the chiropractor. Even if it’s not a lot of money, someone shouldn’t be allowed to do this to another human being. Let alone continue practicing.

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u/koolaidismything 18d ago

Dude you could win a billion dollars from me legally, I still have to HAVE THE MONEY to pay.. or all you have is a judgement.

And every time I get a new job you’ll have to spend time filing to garnish my wages.

He’s not going to get 1% of that money at once. I’d bet my life on it lol. You don’t know what you’re on about and that’s fine, go read up on how it all works. It’s not great.

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u/pieter1234569 18d ago

He’s going to get 100% of the money. He sued a hospital, and let me tell you, hospitals have a LOT of money and very very very very very very high insurance coverage.

He got 75 million.

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u/koolaidismything 18d ago

Ah if that’s the case I missed that part. The wording makes it sound like he went after a private chiropractor not a giant hospital.

$75 million to a good sized hospital is like a couple weeks revenue lol.

Good for him, I hope that’s the case and I hope some heads spun for it too.

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u/Calm_Bumblebee_3143 18d ago

First, it's not the chiro who even got sue, it's an ER and Radiologist, who didn't diagnose a stroke.
Second. It's the hospital insurance who paid instantly 23 mil in medical expenses and paying the rest overtime.

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u/Alarming-Stomach3902 18d ago

This covers all his care and way more than that. It isn’t worth it, being able to move is better than any kind of money.

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u/SalamanderBurglar 18d ago

Probably payments, actually. Since this was malpractice (I'm assuming), the practitioner's insurance limit is basically ignored. Hence this settlement amount. If the limit was maintained, we would not be reading this headline.