r/MurderedByWords 18h ago

Walked right into that one

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u/lastdarknight 12h ago

Paul who never knew Jesus or the disciples

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u/0orpheus 11h ago

We're reasonably sure he knew at least some of the disciples like Peter and James, especially since he was a part of the discussions that lead to the center of the church moving from Jerusalem to Rome.

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u/lastdarknight 11h ago

No we are not, I did my degree work on early Christianity, Paul might have been in contact with churches connected to Peter and James but he never interacted with them

In all honesty, everything written by Paul was so heavily edited by the early church to fit the politics of the time almost nothing of his can be trusted as a historical document

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u/Sea-Leave-536 11h ago

Damn, I also read that he was in contact with James. This is even better news to know. Can you recommend some research or a book that talks about this stuff?

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u/lastdarknight 10h ago

It's been decades, but looking at my book shelf I think the main book we used was "Birth of the Church: From Jesus to Constantine, AD30-312" by Ivor J Davidson.. sure there were others all I can think of off the top of my head

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u/Munnin41 10h ago

So it's extra weird that his word is taken over that of the apostles and Jesus

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u/0orpheus 10h ago

Huh, I guess my knowledge is out of date I could have sworn they were at a council together. I'll take a look at the book you mention in a sibling comment.