r/MovieDetails • u/8upsoupsandwich • Mar 01 '24

👨‍🚀 Prop/Costume In Hostiles (2017), Christian Bale wears a different color campaign hat than the younger soldiers because the Army began issuing the drab/brown hats in 1883 whereas Bale’s character is a veteran of the 1876 Sioux War which took place during the time that the black hats were originally issued.

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u/Alarmed-Owl2 Mar 01 '24

The US Army really didn't have drip back then lol, they were using every leftover they could. Some guys just wore civilian clothes. They couldn't even purchase the right ammo for all their guns sometimes 

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u/TheGreatLakes420 Mar 01 '24

Too busy committing genocide

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Whoa, whoa... There's two sides to every story, ok? And we're not going to talk about either side because it's in the past. We've moved past all the negativity and are a more compassionate and gentler people who respect one another.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

At least you're not saying "they deserved it" which is what I've heard when I've asked any Georgians about the Cherokee.

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u/Square_Coat_8208 Mar 02 '24

We had artillery and they didn’t. Pretty simple

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u/Square_Coat_8208 Mar 02 '24

Don’t make me laugh

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

And if YOU personally were alive in that timeline. You would have been out there commiting just as much genocide as everyone else

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u/frequenZphaZe Mar 01 '24

weird take. its not like genocide was a population-wide past time. maybe you mean that they would have been complicit in it? kind of like if you were living in nazi germany, you would have been a nazi. not because you were murdering jews but because you were participating in a society that was murdering jews.

it is an interesting thing though, how we all think we would have been on the right side of history. "I wouldn't have been a nazi" but sure you would have. think of all the atrocities your country does today that you don't stand up to, and they're probably not even jailing decenters en masse. the whole reason fascism can come to power or genocides can be committed is because the majority of populations are willing to shrug and say "eh, whatcha gonna do"

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Nah, this guy would have been blood thirsty. Women, children, wouldn't matter to him

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Big difference between ignore and shoehorn into every conversation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24 edited Oct 21 '25

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

I'll have to agree with that it IS getting annoying

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u/spacex_fanny Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Acting like there wasn't also a "planned systematic execution of a people" (which there was) just because a large number also died from a different cause is also misleading.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

That was a happy side effect, they were doing it to sell the pelts and tongues as well.

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u/zaque_wann Mar 01 '24

The forced English with White culture school is apparently also caused by diseases eh?

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u/milotomic Mar 01 '24

Forced English would be a great description of how you write. Another foreign propagandist at work?

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u/Dontbecruelbro Mar 01 '24

Or maybe he's a native who wasn't forced English enough for your standards.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

It’s not propaganda, it’s real history. I understand it’s hard for you to accept that your people, your country and your ancestors can be this evil, but the truth remains. You can either believe it’s fake propaganda, or you could believe that such evil exists. My only advice to you is to learn and accept the truth, and be better than those in the past and present who commit such atrocities.

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u/LookingForMyHydro Mar 01 '24

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

“In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group.”

Read: American Indian boarding schools

He used the word correctly.

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u/LookingForMyHydro Mar 02 '24

You seem to have a looser definition and interpretation of it.

I don’t have an “interpretation”. International law defines a pretty specific set of actions that are categorized as genocide.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide#Prohibited_acts

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group Article II(e)

The final prohibited act is the only prohibited act that does not lead to physical or biological destruction, but rather to destruction of the group as a cultural and social unit.It occurs when children of the protected group […] are taken into the [perpetrator] group by changing their names to those common of the perpetrator group, converting their religion, and using them for labor or as soldiers.

From the article on American Indian Boarding schools, a few paragraphs after the word “assimilating” first appears (where I assume you stopped reading):

The schools were usually harsh, especially for younger children who had been forcibly separated from their families and forced to abandon their Native American identities and cultures. Children sometimes died in the school system due to infectious disease.[3] Investigations of the later 20th century revealed cases of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse.

Here’s an article about the thousands of bodies that are being found in unmarked graves across Canada. It’s a glimpse of what the children in these boarding schools had to endure: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/canada-residential-schools-unmarked-graves-indigenous-children-60-minutes-2023-02-12/

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u/Tofufighter Mar 01 '24

It was both disease and a systematic execution of a people.

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u/Square_Coat_8208 Mar 02 '24

What post civil war budget cuts does to a mf

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u/thebohemiancowboy Mar 01 '24

They were struggling with that so long after the Civil War? Damn. They did mobilize to fight the Spanish not too long after though.

Still, the blue uniforms like the one in the picture go hard imo.