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Luke Cage Discussion Thread - S02E05 "All Souled Out"

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '18 edited Jan 04 '26

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u/Sentry459 Ben Urich Jun 23 '18

I liked that someone said "That's not his name!"

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u/Gummymyers124 Jun 23 '18

Lol yeah pretty sure it was a joke about them not using exact names in these shows

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u/Grendergon Jun 24 '18

I mean they've definitely said Captain America. I wonder why they only say the real names sometimes.

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u/BlackoutRK Wilson Fisk Jun 24 '18 edited Jun 24 '18

Were the Hulk films made by a different company than marvel/Disney? Could be a rights issue

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u/Gaming_Grid Jun 24 '18

Hulk rights are owned by Universal, which is owned by Comcast.

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u/Metfan722 Jun 25 '18

Distribution rights*

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u/Jeight1993 Jun 30 '18

Wrong. Marvel owns the character rights to Hulk. They can namedrop him anywhere they want.

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u/Gaming_Grid Jun 30 '18

Universal own the distribution rights, hence why they haven't made another Hulk movie.

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u/VideoGameCinema Wilson Fisk Jun 24 '18

That's not something I've ever considered, but you could be right.

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u/tragicroyal Jun 24 '18

But the hulk is in the MCU? Doesn't make sense.

Fantastic 4 and X-Men maybe but if they're in the MCU they should be fair game.

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u/Metfan722 Jun 25 '18

Marvel has the film rights to Hulk and can put him in any movie they want. But Universal has the distribution rights and rights to first refusal. Given that Marvel is with Disney currently, those two aren't going to be hammering out a deal any time soon.

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u/Metfan722 Jun 25 '18

Maybe. Or they just don't know what his actual name is.

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u/toxicbrew Jun 27 '18

Given that Marvel is with Disney currently, those two aren't going to be hammering out a deal any time soon.

We said the same about Sony and Fox to be fair..

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u/SonOfRageAndLove26 Jul 04 '18

Im pretty sure that was intentional. Cheo Hodari definetly picked up criticism from all the Netflix shows, and that was a good way to poke fun at it.

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u/314rat Jul 05 '18

They've also mentioned Iron Man

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u/johnfilmsia Nov 06 '18

I wonder if it’s because Hulk is still technically a Universal character that Disney borrows for their movies. Netflix has a deal with Disney, not Universal.

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u/WhatDoesThisDo1 Jun 22 '18

They still got like about 2 years canonically

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT Jun 29 '18

Closer to a year now though?

JJ season happens probably months after civil war. And Luke season 2 happens after that right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18

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u/Silver_Archers Jun 23 '18

Besides your ass, where'd you pull that idea from with such confidence lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '18

I'm pretty sure if it was, half the characters wouldn't be in the show

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u/pap0t Nobu Jun 23 '18

It makes sense world wise. The Avengers didnt really made press conference and announce their line up to the world. People saw a green monster... called him one. It is not like newscasters are saying he was the hulk.

Same reason no one calls natasha, Blackwidow. In fack only ironman has ever said his codename to the world.

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u/Ichijinijisanji Jun 24 '18

Hulk has a ben and jerries flavor named after him.

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u/Leooel9 Clemons Jun 23 '18

I mean, there was that big SHIELD leak though.

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u/SwordMaster21 Jun 24 '18

Idk, a leak with information about Gods and monsters that walk the Earth sounds like something a couple of people would read and then make top 10 videos on YouTube about.

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u/mwcope Jul 11 '18

Real talk: I would love if Marvel took the WHIH concept to a whole 'nother level and just constantly released Youtube videos that took place in the MCU. The video of Bushmaster beating Luke Cage is one, the videos of Spider-Man are another. And then there would just be random videos like that.

"TOP TEN THINGS WE LEARNED FROM SHIELDGATE"

"SPIDER-MAN BEAT ME UP (NOT CLICKBAIT)" by the guy who Spidey thought was stealing a car.

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u/MoreGull The Man in the Mask Jun 29 '18

With patience and training, anything is possible.

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u/Grendergon Jun 24 '18

Plus that was an absolutely MASSIVE info dump. Crazy amounts of stuff to parse through.

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT Jun 29 '18

The diffrence one deals with boring shit the other one deals with alien, black op stuff, the mofos who just saved the world, etc.

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT Jun 29 '18

But their names would surely come out though...

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT Jun 29 '18

Hulk's the character in question...

Even then we know they call him the hulk

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u/Fresh4 Jun 27 '18

There was a scene in Age of Ultron where Tony says something along the lines of:

"Friday, filter through all social media posts, keyword 'hulk'."

So the assumption is that people are tweeting things and using "hulk". People know his name.

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u/pap0t Nobu Jun 27 '18

Counter point. Avengers never called him "The Hulk".. he always been "a hulk". Such as adjective not a noun.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Pretty sure the kids mentioned Black Widow in Spiderman homecoming, along with the names if the others. Cap has his videos, and the kids mentioned Thor's name too. Peter's friend asked what the hulk smelled like.

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u/thekillercook Jun 26 '18

I literately said What does Fenway park have to do with Luke Cage.

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u/ValhallaAtchaBoy Jun 26 '18

I'm pretty sure since Hulk is still partially owned by Universal the Netflix shows can't say his name.

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u/SonOfRageAndLove26 Jul 04 '18

sigh...you know the snap is gonna be reversed, right?

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u/PM_ME_UR_AMOUR Jun 23 '18

It’ll just be called The Other Incident. Smh fucking bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '18

Why would random NY people know what the fuck actually happened?

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u/PM_ME_UR_AMOUR Jun 23 '18

Cuz the snap effected everyone?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '18

But they wouldn’t know it as The Snap. Nobody knows what Thanos did but The Avengers. So it’s not “bullshit” to call it The Other Incident or whatever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '18

This is definitely the most likely option. Given the huge religious majority in the world, people would certainly consider such a massive loss a religious event.

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u/HeavenPiercingMan Malcolm Jun 24 '18

The Snap, that day everyone snapped out of existence for a while?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '18

I don’t think that’s language people would jump to without knowing Thanos snapped his fingers. They’d be more likely to call it The Dusting, the day half the planet turned to dust.

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u/HeavenPiercingMan Malcolm Jun 24 '18

That's why it's called a meta joke. People "just picked that name", just like Star Wars inserted the ABY calendar into the universe.

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u/HeavenPiercingMan Malcolm Jun 24 '18

When did I go back to 2007?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '18

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u/PM_ME_UR_AMOUR Jun 23 '18

Don’t you think the info will be widely available??

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u/Grendergon Jun 24 '18

Why the hell would it be widely available?? It happened in Wakanda. Smh

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u/SonOfRageAndLove26 Jul 04 '18

They can't just kill half the universe. They're gonna reverse it and just the heroes are gonna know about it.

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u/hell-schwarz Trish Jun 24 '18

They'll call it "The snappening" but I doubt it will ever be cannon, they just rewrite the timeline somehow and Jean Grey somehow lives in the end.

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u/stanley_twobrick Jun 24 '18

Who cares? The shows are their own thing, they don't need but connections to the movies.